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Post by Aggie One on Sept 21, 2020 9:16:30 GMT -5
This move will be a colossal failure. There I said it. Just my opinion. Carry on.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 21, 2020 9:47:38 GMT -5
As soon as the new car smell wears off, its not gonna be fun anymore. I dont see Sanders being in for the long haul.
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 21, 2020 9:49:51 GMT -5
How he does depends on what he learned from Bowden and how much support JSU gives him. Bowden wasn't some genius but he knew how to charm recruits and let his coaches coach. If JSU will give him enough support to get decent assistants (he'd have enough sense to get the right assistants unlike a lot of guys out there who think they know it all already) then it'd work. I mean he's in what is ranked one of the bottom d-1 leagues. Good organizational skills and team discipline alone gets you eight wins.
All that being typed, it remains to be seen if he even is able to get the job. In addition to the whole contract thing I doubt he takes the job without some serious budgetary and staffing guarantees. Prime has a lot of ego and ain't trying to lose.
He'd be gone as soon as a higher echelon team from Texas or Florida called. I'm sure all parties know that already.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 21, 2020 9:53:34 GMT -5
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Post by VA's Finest on Sept 21, 2020 10:02:56 GMT -5
My personal opinion, I'll take the under, of 2.5 years. He may have some success in recruiting but his staff would need to be top notch.
Wait until his admin informs him of the, I'm speculating here, Ole Miss matchup as well as South Alabama. They will get drug in those games and im not sure if mentally he can cope with those type losses.
Let alone once he gets into league play and realizes that you can have talent but there are some veteran savvy coaches in the SWAC that are licking their chops at an opportunity to pour it on against JSU.
We arent even going to mention a possible MEAC/SWAC Challenge against them boys in Blue, he better hope his AD turns that offer down.
I foresee, some made up issue with funding within the program and mutual parting of ways before year 2.
I hope the exact opposite and he brings JSU back to prominence but thats a tall task.
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Post by aggieforlife on Sept 21, 2020 10:40:05 GMT -5
Let schedule a Game with them and welcome Prime Time to HBCU Football.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Sept 21, 2020 10:44:13 GMT -5
Why I realize not the same level of experience but Prime has been head coach of the private high school he had for a while. The guy is alot more grounded than he use to be. I agree if he surrounds himself with good assistants I think he will succeed.
In addition he is smart enough to know that he cant just walk in the door and say Prime is here and give some great speech and they become winners. I think the challenge will be that he keeps his players focused academically and stays in line with all the compliance rules. Hopefully he learned something with all the compliance issues with the private high school.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 21, 2020 10:57:11 GMT -5
I wonder what 4XLAggie thinks about this move. He is very familiar with the JSU athletic department and that fanbase.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 21, 2020 11:01:19 GMT -5
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Sept 21, 2020 11:08:49 GMT -5
This move will be a colossal failure. There I said it. Just my opinion. Carry on. I couldn't agree with you more!! |
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Sept 21, 2020 11:18:36 GMT -5
I wonder what 4XLAggie thinks about this move. He is very familiar with the JSU athletic department and that fanbase. I don't think it's going to work. Nothing changes as far as the budget challenges go. The fan base is very proud but fickle. They will turn on him quickly. I will say this, the last person who said "God sent me to Jackson" got locked up on a prostitution charge. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 21, 2020 11:55:22 GMT -5
The spectacular collapse of Deion Sanders' Prime Prep Academy
By Jeff Mosier
10:02 AM on Feb 2, 2016 CSTThe now infamous Prime Prep Academy shut its door permanently a year ago with less than an hour's notice. Students walked away from the Dallas and Fort Worth campuses with no school. Employees left without jobs or paychecks for their final month of work. With tears and anger, the state's most hyped and scrutinized charter - thanks in part to co-founder Deion Sanders - ceased to exist. Long after the school's demise, its legacy continues beyond Sanders' reality show and former Prime Prep basketball star Emmanuel Mudiay's entry into the NBA. A pair of lawsuits is still active, even after others were dropped. One targets the nonprofit work that led up to creation of the school, while the other was filed by ex-Prime Prep employees against school administrators. And local, state and federal officials launched investigations into wrongdoing. The school failed not because of tough new rules meant to shut down failing charter schools. Instead, financial mismanagement fueled the slow motion collapse and led to the school's eventual insolvency. Ron Price, a former Dallas ISD trustee who was superintendent for much of the last year, was hired to turn around the school. He said he was misled about the school finances when he was hired, misled in the final months and rebuffed when he tried to cut expenses. "If everybody involved would have been more truthful to me and our new team, I still believe we could have saved it," he said. Board President T. Christopher Lewis said the school's demise could be traced back to early mistakes made by the school's nonprofit sponsor Uplift Fort Worth -- not to be confused with the respected and still operating Uplift Education. "The issues with Prime Prep started before Prime Prep was even formed," he said. "That was the ultimate demise of the financial situation...I will always have a great deal of regret that we couldn't take a great idea and great opportunity and do more with it." When asked to comment via text message, Sanders said "That's the dumbest thing I've heard all year." Sanders, who was fired, rehired, fired and rehired at the school, initially pitched Prime Prep as a school that would create CEOs; succeed where other public schools failed; and do "good in the hood." But the school was marred by controversy from the beginning (here's a timeline with some of those details) and the perception that it focused on athletics to the exclusion of academics. In 2013, the year ended with a high-profile fight for control between Sanders and co-founder D.L. Wallace, who was forced out of the school. Prime Prep started 2014 with hope and ambition, much like it had when the school opened in 2012. Here's a look at the final 13 months of Prime Prep and particularly the financial, legal and regulatory problems that led to its closure. This story is based on news stories, lawsuits, school documents, Texas Education Agency and Texas Comptroller data and Prime Prep's bank register. Read more: www.dallasnews.com/news/2016/02/02/the-spectacular-collapse-of-deion-sanders-prime-prep-academy/
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Post by Aggie77 on Sept 21, 2020 13:57:32 GMT -5
This move will be a colossal failure. There I said it. Just my opinion. Carry on. I couldn't agree with you more!! I probably see the same issue y'all see, but I really hope this union works! |
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Post by lobengula on Sept 21, 2020 17:45:05 GMT -5
With a wait and see attitude is this hire about the student athletes and Jackson States' legacy or is it about Sanders. That entry was about him.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Sept 21, 2020 19:10:27 GMT -5
The keys are:
1. How great of a fundraiser is Deion from his external friends/network?
2. How committed is he to "the grind"?
If he can fundraise... he can bankroll his staff and get the upgrades he needs to build a winner. I expect to see his QB son decommit from FAU in the near future.
But if he can't effectively fundraise... I think the passion for the grind will wilt after a couple of years.
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