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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2020 11:19:50 GMT -5
I was wondering if we ever tried to have a vet school formed at A&T? I only saw 2 vet schools in NC-Duke and NC State. Would this be a good fit for our Ag School long-term?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 20, 2020 12:44:57 GMT -5
I always thought the Animal Science department was a vet school. Guess you learn something new every day.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Jun 20, 2020 12:49:48 GMT -5
Go back and check out your history. There is only one Vet school in NC and it's at ncsu. Find out the history of Corbett and Webb Hall.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2020 12:55:59 GMT -5
I always thought the Animal Science department was a vet school. Guess you learn something new every day. I’m coming at this lacking knowledge so hear me out. Have we ever conferred doctorates of vet science? Would we ever offer this degree in the future?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 20, 2020 13:12:27 GMT -5
We should. But like I said, I honestly thought animal science was just a term that meant vet school.
Now I need to go back and find out what that term actually means. lol.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 20, 2020 13:14:39 GMT -5
as i recall there was a big "controversy" within the state regarding which unc system school was gonna be granted a vet school, this happened a long time ago. a&t was very hopeful of landing that vet school. but as i recall, it came down to a&t and nc state as the two finalists to be granted the vet school and we came up on the short end of the stick.
i'll have to do some research to get the exact details, but that's my best memory of the ordeal...
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Jun 20, 2020 13:15:53 GMT -5
We don't have a Veterinary School of Medicine at A&T, that was denied by the state and given to ncsu. We have an Animal Science program which enhances students chances of getting into a Vet School or work in research for Gov. agencies or major corporations. Why not try to find out why A&T was denied a Vet School, since under the federal court desegregation decree, we were in line for the state's so called next major program.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 20, 2020 13:29:26 GMT -5
that's correct, sixties. there was a "lawsuit" back in 1975 that a&t loss regarding that vet school. dowdy was our chancellor at that time...
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Post by aggielaw on Jun 20, 2020 14:02:01 GMT -5
The State didn't want A&T to have control of the Vet school. In South Carolina, USC didn't want Benedict to have an ROTC program. Aggies had to go down there and help Benedict.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 20, 2020 15:44:28 GMT -5
here's the history behind the '74-'75 vet school debate that a&t loss... soh.omeka.chass.ncsu.edu/exhibits/show/colorline-hew/hewvetschoolVet School Debate, 1974-1975The Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW) pushed for North Carolina to consolidate degree programs so that historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) could compete. When the former Governor Robert Scott urged the Board of Governors to create a Veterinary Medicine School at North Carolina State University (NCSU), HEW saw this as an opportunity to test the UNC system’s commitment to desegregation. HEW officials argued that by establishing the new Vet School at a traditionally white institution like NCSU, the UNC system was showing a lack of commitment to its desegregation plan. By placing the new program instead at the historically black North Carolina Agriculture and Technical State University (NC A&T), it would attract white students and enhance state support for HBCUs. The Board of Governors responded by agreeing to do a racial impact study that predicted that locating the Vet School at NCSU would lead to an 18 percent black enrollment. While placing the Vet School at NC A&T would result in 20 percent black enrollment. Raymond Dawson, vice-president of Academic Affairs for the University of North Carolina, said in a later interview that he felt the racial impact study was a delay tactic because the location of the Vet School at NCSU was already a forgone conclusion. In the 1974 December meeting the board approved the location of the Vet School at NCSU over the objections of three out of the four black members of the board. Peter Holmes, director of the Office of Civil Rights, in a later interview said he viewed the Boards actions as symbolic of their lack of commitment to desegregation process. HEW eventually withdrew the threat of cutting federal funding, but the relationship between UNC system and HEW had deteriorated. UNC system officials came to view HEW involvement as unnecessary federal interference in their academic institutions.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 20, 2020 15:49:01 GMT -5
soh.omeka.chass.ncsu.edu/exhibits/show/colorline-hew/item/287"UNC Board approved Vet School for NCSU," December 19, 1974Description The Board of Governors approved the location of the Vet School at NCSU and a related activity at NCA&T on Dec. 19, 1974. Julius Chambers, one of the four African-American board members, attempted to delay the vote until a plan for NCA&T was developed. Chambers as well as two other African-American board members were the only members to vote against the proposal. Chambers said that the compromise measure sort of passes a crumb to A&T, and that is the same kind of discrimination that has taken place historically. He went on to argue that A&T was not competitive with NCSU because of years of discrimination. By not locating the Vet School at A&T it was symptomatic of the problems at other HBCUs and the UNC systems unwillingness to fix these problems in order to prevent duplications of programs.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Jun 20, 2020 15:51:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the history lesson. This was really messed up. I wonder if there is a way both schools could share the program now, or maybe that horse has left the barn.
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Post by captaggie on Jun 20, 2020 16:51:59 GMT -5
Thanks OSA!!
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Jun 20, 2020 17:15:27 GMT -5
They ain't gone share that school with us. They were playing games to make it look like an HBCU school was going to win.
Yall know the real deal.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 20, 2020 17:19:09 GMT -5
Oleschool bringing the heat. Never knew that info.
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