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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 17:22:30 GMT -5
I like the pick up...he looks to be playing at a weight that might be a bit too much. At 227 lbs...seems heavy. I'm thinking if he loses maybe 10 lbs, that would be the ideal playing weight for this guy. i don't have a problem with his apparent weight cuz he "out ran" dudes in the open field who had an angle on him. i mean, he could be one of those "rare" dudes over 220 lbs who also has very good "speed". guys like earl cambell and john riggins were like that. now, i don't know if his speed looked good because of the competition level or not. but nonetheless, his speed looked very good... Our scheme isn’t predicated on a big bruising back. We use smaller lineman that can quickly get to the second level. Having a John Riggins, Mike Alstott kind of back may not fit, except in short yardage and goal line situations. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 4, 2020 18:17:21 GMT -5
i don't have a problem with his apparent weight cuz he "out ran" dudes in the open field who had an angle on him. i mean, he could be one of those "rare" dudes over 220 lbs who also has very good "speed". guys like earl cambell and john riggins were like that. now, i don't know if his speed looked good because of the competition level or not. but nonetheless, his speed looked very good... Our scheme isn’t predicated on a big bruising back. We use smaller lineman that can quickly get to the second level. Having a John Riggins, Mike Alstott kind of back may not fit, except in short yardage and goal line situations. cartwright was a "bruising" back who didn't rely on break away speed but our offense worked fine with him as our starter... |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 21:06:22 GMT -5
Our scheme isn’t predicated on a big bruising back. We use smaller lineman that can quickly get to the second level. Having a John Riggins, Mike Alstott kind of back may not fit, except in short yardage and goal line situations. cartwright was a "bruising" back who didn't rely on break away speed but our offense worked fine with him as our starter... He had way more speed than you're giving him credit for, especially within our scheme between the tackles. Cartwright also wasn't running the ball close to 230 lbs. |
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Post by saabman on May 4, 2020 23:29:02 GMT -5
i don't have a problem with his apparent weight cuz he "out ran" dudes in the open field who had an angle on him. i mean, he could be one of those "rare" dudes over 220 lbs who also has very good "speed". guys like earl cambell and john riggins were like that. now, i don't know if his speed looked good because of the competition level or not. but nonetheless, his speed looked very good... Our scheme isn’t predicated on a big bruising back. We use smaller lineman that can quickly get to the second level. Having a John Riggins, Mike Alstott kind of back may not fit, except in short yardage and goal line situations. Our current system will be just fine for a bigger type RB . A&T's system can fit any type of Big or Small RB As long as they have the speed and quickness. We have been accustom to seeing smaller RB's but Martin is not really that small. The young man's tape showed Burst & Speed , Balance , Patient's and Power . I just hope that the coaching staff does not Pigeonholed the young man because of his size without giving him the opportunity to complete of the # 2 behind Martin . Could be the first Plug-In - Play behind Martin. |
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Post by saabman on May 4, 2020 23:36:18 GMT -5
cartwright was a "bruising" back who didn't rely on break away speed but our offense worked fine with him as our starter... He had way more speed than you're giving him credit for, especially within our scheme between the tackles. Cartwright also wasn't running the ball close to 230 lbs. What does his weight have to do with it ? One thing to remember that muscle is heavier than fat . Don't misjudge the book by its cover. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 4, 2020 23:36:31 GMT -5
cartwright was a "bruising" back who didn't rely on break away speed but our offense worked fine with him as our starter... He had way more speed than you're giving him credit for, especially within our scheme between the tackles. Cartwright also wasn't running the ball close to 230 lbs. i would argue that that this kid has more speed than cartwright despite his weight. i've seen cartwright's high school video which was great, but he wasn't out running dudes who had an angle on him like this kid does. they both played 1a/2a ball, so the competition was similar. when you beat dudes in a foot race even though they have the "angle" on you, that's a sign that you've got good speed regardless to the level you play at. this dude beat guys to the endzone who had the "angle" on him, that pretty much equates to giving them a "head start" and he still out ran them. cartwright did not have that kind of speed but i never said cartwright was "slow"... |
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Post by saabman on May 5, 2020 8:57:50 GMT -5
He had way more speed than you're giving him credit for, especially within our scheme between the tackles. Cartwright also wasn't running the ball close to 230 lbs. i would argue that that this kid has more speed than cartwright despite his weight. i've seen cartwright's high school video which was great, but he wasn't out running dudes who had an angle on him like this kid does. they both played 1a/2a ball, so the competition was similar. when you beat dudes in a foot race even though they have the "angle" on you, that's a sign that you've got good speed regardless to the level you play at. this dude beat guys to the endzone who had the "angle" on him, that pretty much equates to giving them a "head start" and he still out ran them. cartwright did not have that kind of speed but i never said cartwright was "slow"... What is more apparent to me is the following things that you can not teach : 1. Quick Burst into the hole 2. Runs with a forward lean an Aggressive North South Down Hill Runner 3. Makes himself Small in the pocket (between the Tackles) a compact runner 4. Quick Feet and not a lot of wasted movement on his cuts. Has the speed/power to not only run over a defender but around him , Slips a lot of tackles, keeps leg movement after contact. 5. Seems to have good vision and knows how to follow and setup his blockers . 6. Deceptive speed and quickness for a back of his size . 7. A poor man's Marcus Dupree or Curtis Dickey . The young man has a wealth of the intangibles if used properly. From his high school tapes I can honestly say that this young man should not be pigeonholed because of his size. If handled properly he may turn out to be the big featured every down back after Martin jumps to the next level. |
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Post by aggie2039 on May 5, 2020 9:02:05 GMT -5
i would argue that that this kid has more speed than cartwright despite his weight. i've seen cartwright's high school video which was great, but he wasn't out running dudes who had an angle on him like this kid does. they both played 1a/2a ball, so the competition was similar. when you beat dudes in a foot race even though they have the "angle" on you, that's a sign that you've got good speed regardless to the level you play at. this dude beat guys to the endzone who had the "angle" on him, that pretty much equates to giving them a "head start" and he still out ran them. cartwright did not have that kind of speed but i never said cartwright was "slow"... What is more apparent to me is the following things that you can not teach : 1. Quick Burst into the hole 2. Runs with a forward lean an Aggressive North South Down Hill Runner 3. Makes himself Small in the pocket (between the Tackles) a compact runner 4. Quick Feet and not a lot of wasted movement on his cuts. Has the speed/power to not only run over a defender but around him , Slips a lot of tackles, keeps leg movement after contact. 5. Seems to have good vision and knows how to follow and setup his blockers . 6. Deceptive speed and quickness for a back of his size . 7. A poor man's Marcus Dupree or Curtis Dickey . The young man has a wealth of the intangibles if used properly. From his high school tapes I can honestly say that this young man should not be pigeonholed because of his size. If handled properly he may turn out to be the big featured every down back after Martin jumps to the next level. So you like him better than the transfer from WF? |
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Post by bseballaggie on May 5, 2020 9:30:09 GMT -5
This kid has the it! The makings of a Star.
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Post by DOOMS on May 5, 2020 10:24:13 GMT -5
I have to laugh.
I remember that big a$$ dude from Elon that was killin us in the first game last year but they were too stupid to leave him in to let him kill us. This guy's like him, just faster.
I'd redshirt him, let him gain the 10 pounds he's bound to gain, and let him be the Ron Dayne of the big south. Momentum is momentum, and this cat builds it up quick. Second level = broken down dbs with him. And the way we coach running backs....
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 5, 2020 11:16:35 GMT -5
in any other season other than this one, this kid would probably get some significant run as a true freshman. but with the wake forest transfer coming in, he'll probably get redshirted which certainly is no crime considering the rb's we already have for this season.
barring major injuries to the guys in front of him, i'd like to see him get some carries in 2 or 3 games without burning his redshirt. then next season after martin graduates he can backup the wake forest transfer. he might be in line to start 2 or 3 years down the road...
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Post by ohsixrain on May 5, 2020 16:14:42 GMT -5
i would argue that that this kid has more speed than cartwright despite his weight. i've seen cartwright's high school video which was great, but he wasn't out running dudes who had an angle on him like this kid does. they both played 1a/2a ball, so the competition was similar. when you beat dudes in a foot race even though they have the "angle" on you, that's a sign that you've got good speed regardless to the level you play at. this dude beat guys to the endzone who had the "angle" on him, that pretty much equates to giving them a "head start" and he still out ran them. cartwright did not have that kind of speed but i never said cartwright was "slow"... What is more apparent to me is the following things that you can not teach : 1. Quick Burst into the hole 2. Runs with a forward lean an Aggressive North South Down Hill Runner 3. Makes himself Small in the pocket (between the Tackles) a compact runner 4. Quick Feet and not a lot of wasted movement on his cuts. Has the speed/power to not only run over a defender but around him , Slips a lot of tackles, keeps leg movement after contact. 5. Seems to have good vision and knows how to follow and setup his blockers . 6. Deceptive speed and quickness for a back of his size . 7. A poor man's Marcus Dupree or Curtis Dickey . The young man has a wealth of the intangibles if used properly. From his high school tapes I can honestly say that this young man should not be pigeonholed because of his size. If handled properly he may turn out to be the big featured every down back after Martin jumps to the next level. By no means am I saying he doesn't cut the mustard. I'd wouldn't mind seeing that ability coming out of the backfield for the next 4 years. But, on the flip-side, I'd hate to see him sucking bugs after 2 carries that goes over 30 yards in a half of play. |
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Post by saabman on May 5, 2020 22:12:56 GMT -5
What is more apparent to me is the following things that you can not teach : 1. Quick Burst into the hole 2. Runs with a forward lean an Aggressive North South Down Hill Runner 3. Makes himself Small in the pocket (between the Tackles) a compact runner 4. Quick Feet and not a lot of wasted movement on his cuts. Has the speed/power to not only run over a defender but around him , Slips a lot of tackles, keeps leg movement after contact. 5. Seems to have good vision and knows how to follow and setup his blockers . 6. Deceptive speed and quickness for a back of his size . 7. A poor man's Marcus Dupree or Curtis Dickey . The young man has a wealth of the intangibles if used properly. From his high school tapes I can honestly say that this young man should not be pigeonholed because of his size. If handled properly he may turn out to be the big featured every down back after Martin jumps to the next level. So you like him better than the transfer from WF? To be truthful until they report to campus I don't have a preference for either I'll let Washington decide that . A lot of times what a kid can do and get away with in high school doesn't transfer into the college level of play there will be an adjustment period and the same goes for the WF transfer we will see at camp time . But sometimes you run across a supersized back with speed or one with that IT factor that can not be denied playing time . Like The Kid but understand this Coach Washington and staff has loaded the RB position up to the Tee so there are other backs waiting in the wings . Outside of Martin the 2,3,4 are wide open. It's going to be interesting to see who is standing when the smoke clears . |
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Post by saabman on May 5, 2020 22:17:50 GMT -5
What is more apparent to me is the following things that you can not teach : 1. Quick Burst into the hole 2. Runs with a forward lean an Aggressive North South Down Hill Runner 3. Makes himself Small in the pocket (between the Tackles) a compact runner 4. Quick Feet and not a lot of wasted movement on his cuts. Has the speed/power to not only run over a defender but around him , Slips a lot of tackles, keeps leg movement after contact. 5. Seems to have good vision and knows how to follow and setup his blockers . 6. Deceptive speed and quickness for a back of his size . 7. A poor man's Marcus Dupree or Curtis Dickey . The young man has a wealth of the intangibles if used properly. From his high school tapes I can honestly say that this young man should not be pigeonholed because of his size. If handled properly he may turn out to be the big featured every down back after Martin jumps to the next level. By no means am I saying he doesn't cut the mustard. I'd wouldn't mind seeing that ability coming out of the backfield for the next 4 years. But, on the flip-side, I'd hate to see him sucking bugs after 2 carries that goes over 30 yards in a half of play. I feel your point . If he keeps his weight under control he should be just fine. Lol |
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Post by aggieblackie2 on May 5, 2020 22:53:22 GMT -5
Man, let the man get here before all of the Aggie wannabe, Monday Morning coaches, make unfounded and unwarranted assessments of this kid from looking at a tape.
"Coach" Washington would not have recruited him if he did not think he could contribute.
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