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Post by aggieforlife on Mar 9, 2020 13:59:30 GMT -5
I no one thing that Burns Kid is just a Freshman will see him real soon..if Coach Jones had not turn in such a good Year that Justin Gray might been a possible candidate..
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Post by Aggie Monster on Mar 9, 2020 14:04:32 GMT -5
Because you get paid per round. 1 win gets you double the dollars, so those 1 win wonders got the conference and themselves another check. So yes, 15 vs 16 matters considering the percentages are zero for 1 vs 16. Yes, I know about the 2018 upset. Its the only one in the history of the tournament. And yes, the teams that play in the first 4 get 2 checks if they win that round. 1 for playing in the first 4 and another for playing in round one. make a tissy over 4 checks in 40 years? are you serious? monster, pub-leeeeze... You say a tissy, but why not? You want to give yourself the best chance to win and get that extra check. The NCAA encourages conferences to split the check equally anyway. Not sure what the MEAC does. Whats the current Big South teams record in the tourney and do they split equally as the NCAA tries to encourage?. That could be more dollars for us since the MEAC's record is horrible. Anyone know?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 9, 2020 14:07:53 GMT -5
So in other words. Playing in the first 4 aint so bad when you look at it financially. If you can pull an upset from there like I think VCU did one time then you banking, LOL. to play in the "first 4" means you are amongst the "lowest" 4 seeded teams in the tournament. so you can't raise a tissy over a higher seed if you wanna take advantage of playing in the "first 4". i'm not referring to the first 4 when i say what's the big deal. matter fact, i "prefer" to play in the first 4 solely because its a very "winnable" game and as you stated, its "national" tv coverage and a pay day. personally, i have "always" been an advocate of playing in the play in games for that very reason. but you can't play in the "first 4" if you're a higher seed which is what ya'll are making a tissy over. so if you prefer higher seeds, then you prefer not to play in the first 4. whereas i'm all for playing in the "first 4" while ya'll hold your breath waiting on a 1st round win...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 9, 2020 14:09:26 GMT -5
make a tissy over 4 checks in 40 years? are you serious? monster, pub-leeeeze... You say a tissy, but why not? You want to give yourself the best chance to win and get that extra check. The NCAA encourages conferences to split the check equally anyway. Not sure what the MEAC does. Whats the current Big South teams record in the tourney and do they split equally as the NCAA tries to encourage?. That could be more dollars for us since the MEAC's record is horrible. Anyone know? 4 checks in 40 years! says it all...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Mar 9, 2020 14:14:57 GMT -5
Can someone do some research on the current Big South teams NCAA tourney records. Oleschool got my brain tired, LOL . i dont suspect it to be too much better than the MEAC. Ironically Hampton is now in the BS, so there is 1 win, LOL.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 9, 2020 14:24:19 GMT -5
Can someone do some research on the current Big South teams NCAA tourney records. Oleschool got my brain tired, LOL . i dont suspect it to be too much better than the MEAC. Ironically Hampton is now in the BS, so there is 1 win, LOL. dude, the record books will show that hampton march madness win as an "meac" win, not a big south win. can't have your cake and eat it too...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 9, 2020 15:09:51 GMT -5
Can someone do some research on the current Big South teams NCAA tourney records. Oleschool got my brain tired, LOL . since 1985 the big south conference has won a "whopping" 1 march madness game out of 22 games for a "laughable" winning percentage of 4.55%, whereas the meac in that same timeframe won 3 out of 31 for a winning percentage of 9.68%. so much for the argument that the big south will improve our postseason march madness performance... www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/2019-02-28/how-every-conference-has-fared-march-madness-1985oh, but wait a minute!! the ovc has 6 march madness wins since '85!! surely since the ovc is a stronger conference than the big south, then it must have elevated tennessee state to at least 1 march madness win like the big south will do for us! but nope, tsu had 2 march madness appearances and like most hbcu's for the last 40 years, loss in the 1st round to seton hall '93 and kentucky '94. but that don't make sense! i thought joining a pwc conference is suppose to elevate hbcu's beyond hbcu's who are left in an hbcu conference? oh well, i guess a&t will beat the odds...
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Post by aggie2039 on Mar 9, 2020 15:21:49 GMT -5
I don’t know why we continue to go back and forth on this, it’s done and I’m happy we are leaving.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Mar 10, 2020 7:50:59 GMT -5
Can someone do some research on the current Big South teams NCAA tourney records. Oleschool got my brain tired, LOL . since 1985 the big south conference has won a "whopping" 1 march madness game out of 22 games for a "laughable" winning percentage of 4.55%, whereas the meac in that same timeframe won 3 out of 31 for a winning percentage of 9.68%. so much for the argument that the big south will improve our postseason march madness performance... www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/2019-02-28/how-every-conference-has-fared-march-madness-1985oh, but wait a minute!! the ovc has 6 march madness wins since '85!! surely since the ovc is a stronger conference than the big south, then it must have elevated tennessee state to at least 1 march madness win like the big south will do for us! but nope, tsu had 2 march madness appearances and like most hbcu's for the last 40 years, loss in the 1st round to seton hall '93 and kentucky '94. but that don't make sense! i thought joining a pwc conference is suppose to elevate hbcu's beyond hbcu's who are left in an hbcu conference? oh well, i guess a&t will beat the odds... Thanks for your research! Informative.
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Post by Maxell on Mar 10, 2020 8:59:53 GMT -5
I still hold on to the belief that we are no longer an average HBCU. Our aspirations are higher, our success will be greater.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 10, 2020 9:49:24 GMT -5
I still hold on to the belief that we are no longer an average HBCU. Our aspirations are higher, our success will be greater. I know one thing - we can't talk about having higher aspirations if all we're talking about in basketball is participating in the play-in game. Hell, the MEAC has struggled to even win that. I look at East Tennessee State and Liberty. Both finished with 30-4 records. Could they be better than A&T? Probably, by a little. However when you compare 30-4 records to 16-15 records, the team with the 16-15 record will be viewed as inferior.... A&T is clearly not a team of a "16-15" caliber.......but when you are scheduling more difficult games in November/December...... you're gonna end up with double-digit losses, irrespective of how well you do in conference. Look at the pre-conference schedule of both Liberty and ETSU: www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2335/liberty-flameswww.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2193/east-tennessee-state-buccaneersI see a Kansas and LSU on ETSU's schedule, but the rest of their schedule is filled with middle-of-the-road-at-best DI and non-DI competition. If you look at Liberty's schedule, I see LSU and Vanderbilt, but that's about it when it comes to P5 schools. Hell, they played more MEAC schools than we did. Again, greater aspirations and play-in game don't belong in the same sentence to me..... Next year is Kam's last season. WE NEED TO MILK IT FOR ALL IT'S WORTH because we may not have a floor general as good as him for another 10-15 years. By milking it for what it's worth, we need to put a litany of middle-of-the road teams on our schedule. I want to see teams from the Big South, A-Sun, and Southern Conference littered up and down our schedule. If we have to play a P5 school, I'm cool with going against a Wake Forest.....but not Illinois. We need to have a record of 28-5 (or similar).....which affords us to avoid a 16/play-in seed.......and gives us a high enough seed to give us a chance at beating a 3 or 4 seed. We will have the talent to do that. We don't have the talent to beat a 1 seed. No 16-seed team has historically had the talent to do that (other than UMBC).... ....but with Kam, Kwe, Tyler, Lyons, Cleveland and the NC State transfer for next year - this team will be lethal. ....I just want a lethal record that gets us a better shot of making serious waves in the tournament. We gotta schedule better in November and December.....AND WIN THOSE GAMES!!! With Coach Jones's style of play and Kam running the show for his senior year, the 2020-21 season should be special. We can make even more special by scheduling smarter!!!
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Mar 10, 2020 10:06:47 GMT -5
I guess you also have to weigh the funding that comes with playing a Big 10 team vs. winnable mid major games . Truth told if Jones was Coach At beginning of season we could add 3-5 more wins under our belt
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Mar 10, 2020 10:14:47 GMT -5
It’s my understanding that we have such a tough out of conference schedule because they are money games used to boost the bottom line.
Scheduling that may improve our record may also reduce revenue. We have to find a balance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 10:24:29 GMT -5
It’s my understanding that we have such a tough out of conference schedule because they are money games used to boost the bottom line. Scheduling that may improve our record may also reduce revenue. We have to find a balance. Once in the Big South, we can schedule games against HBCU squads in November and December in Corbett for revenue. But the reliance on Money Games can be offset by earning an NCAA Tournament Share and by keeping our team APR over a certain mark.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 10, 2020 10:26:01 GMT -5
I hear everything you all are saying......correct me if I'm wrong, but if we're saving $400K+ with less travel in the Big South, don't you think that would enable us to ease up on these money games our basketball team is playing? Charlotte, Wake, ECU, App St, and NC State can give us money games just like a Utah State, Bradley or UTEP can....plus, they ain't as good.
We can pick our money games in basketball just like we can pick our money games in football. We just have to be smart about things. I just don't think we have to schedule that many as we have been - PARTICULARLY IF OUR TRAVEL EXPENSES ARE ABOUT TO GO WAAAAY DOWWWWN. That's what everybody keeps telling us...
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