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Post by AggiePride on Feb 11, 2020 10:36:20 GMT -5
But then after our move, I have thought about the emphasis of athletics, are we over emphasizing it? Which is more important continuing to educate undeserved and underrepresented communities or chasing sports goals, can both co-exist? The balancing act HBCUs have is unique to all other higher ed institutions in this country. From the outside looking in at both BCU (it is hard to tell fact from fiction at BCU) and SCSU (enrollment numbers), if I were leading both of these institutions, I would drop down to D2, if it meant the doors would stay open. I mean Coppin and UMES too would likely be better served by dropping down.
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Post by AggiePride on Feb 11, 2020 10:38:23 GMT -5
But at the same time, a stronger MEAC conference would have us looking rather silly in retrospect. That is the bittersweet thing about this whole deal. Ok so how would this make you feel? FAMU vs Southern in the CB while on the same day A&T vs James Madison in semi finals of playoffs, Depends if FAMU and SOuthern already played in the regular season....that match up could get stale.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 11, 2020 10:42:04 GMT -5
Bro, a round two of FAMU vs. Southern in Mercedes Benz Stadium?
I dont care if one team won 65-0 in the first meeting. That second match-up in the Celebration Bowl for all the marbles would be absolutely bananas.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 10:44:32 GMT -5
Bro, a round two of FAMU vs. Southern in Mercedes Benz Stadium? I dont care if one team won 65-0 in the first meeting. That second match-up in the Celebration Bowl for all the marbles would be absolutely bananas. And that could happen this year.
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Post by Maxell on Feb 11, 2020 10:45:30 GMT -5
Ok so how would this make you feel? FAMU vs Southern in the CB while on the same day A&T vs James Madison in semi finals of playoffs, Depends if FAMU and SOuthern already played in the regular season....that match up could get stale. It wouldn’t be stale in front of 50,000 fans. I think both games on the same day would be good for BCF. I would still feel some kind of way. LOL
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 11, 2020 10:46:28 GMT -5
Bro, a round two of FAMU vs. Southern in Mercedes Benz Stadium? I dont care if one team won 65-0 in the first meeting. That second match-up in the Celebration Bowl for all the marbles would be absolutely bananas. And that could happen this year. See, that is where you start talking crazy. FAMU is gonna get boatraced in BB&T Stadium this year. I was referring to AFTER we left the MEAC.
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Post by AggiePride on Feb 11, 2020 11:01:23 GMT -5
Bro, a round two of FAMU vs. Southern in Mercedes Benz Stadium? I dont care if one team won 65-0 in the first meeting. That second match-up in the Celebration Bowl for all the marbles would be absolutely bananas. I see your point and I was getting ahead of myself, thinking about the same match ups repeating year in and year out in the regular season and CB game.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Feb 11, 2020 12:06:06 GMT -5
I think you could say that this move didn't produce as hoped if we haven't achieved the following by June 30, 2025 (4 years in):
1. Overall Annual Athletics Revenue increased to $20 million ($13 million in 2018-19). 2. Football wins a Big South championship and/or a trip to the FCS Quarterfinals. 3. One MBB & WBB Big South championship (regular season/NIT or tourney/NCAA). 4. Track & Field maintains its consistent Top 20 national status. 5. Baseball, Softball, M/W Golf & M/W Tennis are respectable Big South competitors.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 11, 2020 12:21:03 GMT -5
A 7 million dollar increase in annual revenue within the next 4 years?
I know you are the top capo in the Sunshine Gang, but that is a pollyannaish proposal even by your standards.
How would we ever pull that off, especially with no more Celebration Bowl checks coming in?
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Post by KidHeartless on Feb 11, 2020 12:27:25 GMT -5
Such an interesting read
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Post by TOPPDOGG on Feb 11, 2020 12:36:37 GMT -5
Right now most people are trying to be optimistic, but what factors, if any, would make you eventually regret this decision? For me it would be if the MEAC is still around in 3 years and if another school is cashing a $800k Celebration Bowl check and getting national airtime on ABC. I am not really expecting any major revenue benefits from the Big South streaming contract, and I think the travel benefits are probably overstated as well, but I am under the curent impression that the MEAC is a sinking ship. If the MEAC somehow survives without us, however, I honestly think it would have been a mistake to leave. Time will tell ... This move to the Big South makes sense IF and only IF the MEAC is about to fail. Otherwise it’s moving from one struggle conference to a slightly less struggle conference. The MEAC has to fail, then we can credit our leaders with great foresight. Although, the conference’s failure would’ve been hastened by our decision to leave.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 11, 2020 12:46:10 GMT -5
IF we dont use the move as a stepping stone to the next level. and if the demise of the meac was greatly exaggerated. Man, you done said something right there. I almost feel like somebody at A&T should lose their job if the MEAC is still alive and kicking 4 years from now. This whole conference move was fueled by the notion that the MEAC was/is on its last leg.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 12:47:15 GMT -5
A 7 million dollar increase in annual revenue within the next 4 years? I know you are the top capo in the Sunshine Gang, but that is a pollyannaish proposal even by your standards. How would we ever pull that off, especially with no more Celebration Bowl checks coming in? Enrollment, increased AAF contributions are just a few ways this can increase.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Feb 11, 2020 12:47:31 GMT -5
Right now most people are trying to be optimistic, but what factors, if any, would make you eventually regret this decision? For me it would be if the MEAC is still around in 3 years and if another school is cashing a $800k Celebration Bowl check and getting national airtime on ABC. I am not really expecting any major revenue benefits from the Big South streaming contract, and I think the travel benefits are probably overstated as well, but I am under the curent impression that the MEAC is a sinking ship. If the MEAC somehow survives without us, however, I honestly think it would have been a mistake to leave. Time will tell ... Couple of items... 1. Our net revenue from each of the four Celebration Bowls has been around $500K each time. 2. I'm hearing that the estimated savings off of our travel budget ($1.4 million in 2018-19) is projected to be between 30-40% with the move to the Big South. If we split that and take the 35% number, that would be a $490K savings in travel that is all but guaranteed... compared to a Celebration Bowl windfall that is NOT guaranteed. 3. Our move trades off one POTENTIAL day of national airtime/exposure witht the MEAC and the CB for CONSISTENT increased regional airtime/exposure with the Big South and its ESPN+ sponsored Digital Sports Network. 4. I root for the MEAC to re-up for the CB and stay solvent. If we were to have gotten 3 of 6 CBs on the next contract, well that's a loss of $1.5 million net revenue for other MEAC schools. Now, another HBCU gets that $500K net revenue for those 3 years that needs it, while we're getting in the $500K neighborhood in travel savings ANNUALLY while discovering increases in other revenue streams. That's a win-win to me for us & the MEAC, IMO.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 11, 2020 12:56:07 GMT -5
A 7 million dollar increase in annual revenue within the next 4 years? I know you are the top capo in the Sunshine Gang, but that is a pollyannaish proposal even by your standards. How would we ever pull that off, especially with no more Celebration Bowl checks coming in? Enrollment, increased AAF contributions are just a few ways this can increase. He said a revenue increase. Enrollment would not affect that. Unless the new students are buying more t-shirts or something.
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