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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 10, 2020 22:28:04 GMT -5
Right now most people are trying to be optimistic, but what factors, if any, would make you eventually regret this decision?
For me it would be if the MEAC is still around in 3 years and if another school is cashing a $800k Celebration Bowl check and getting national airtime on ABC.
I am not really expecting any major revenue benefits from the Big South streaming contract, and I think the travel benefits are probably overstated as well, but I am under the curent impression that the MEAC is a sinking ship.
If the MEAC somehow survives without us, however, I honestly think it would have been a mistake to leave.
Time will tell ...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 10, 2020 22:38:22 GMT -5
When FAMU takes over the MEAC, wins the Celebration Bowl....which leads them to winning the HBCU national championship, which leads to them to getting more notoriety, surpassing A&T as the biggest and baddest HBCU....while A&T gets little fanfare, even if they represent well in the BS, in a league that has no pop to it.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 10, 2020 22:42:50 GMT -5
Another metric to keep track of are those freshman application forms that we keep touting.
Dr. Martin and Earl both have credited the dramatic increase in our college applications to our recent success in the Celebration Bowl.
I wonder if those numbers will go down now that we are no longer featured on that national platform.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 10, 2020 22:45:49 GMT -5
We'll be looking like Orangeburg by 2025
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Post by saabman on Feb 10, 2020 22:59:35 GMT -5
Another metric to keep track of are those freshman application forms that we keep touting. Dr. Martin and Earl both have credited the dramatic increase in our college applications to our recent success in the Celebration Bowl. I wonder if those numbers will go down now that we no longer are featured on that national platform. A&T will take a hit because of the move there is no way around it happening . As long as A&T continues to win that will be the determining Factor if we stay relevant in the HBCU community and on the National stage or if we become a laughing joke in the HBCU community .
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 10, 2020 23:13:09 GMT -5
what would make me say the conference change was a bad move? the mere "announcement" alone is enough for me to say the conference change was a bad move...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 10, 2020 23:20:20 GMT -5
Well that's not fair, oleschool.
Obviously if we win an FCS National Championship in the next 3 years it wouldn't have been a bad move. Or if we advance to the College World Series is baseball.
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Post by Freeze on Feb 10, 2020 23:43:03 GMT -5
When FAMU takes over the MEAC, wins the Celebration Bowl....which leads them to winning the HBCU national championship, which leads to them to getting more notoriety, surpassing A&T as the biggest and baddest HBCU....while A&T gets little fanfare, even if they represent well in the BS, in a league that has no pop to it. THIS. By our university's OWN admission, the Celebration Bowl played a roll in our recent popularity bump and enrollment increases. We will no longer have that after 2021. So what will keep A&T elevated and in the public eye? Did Campbell have that type of shine? Did Presbyterian? Did High Point or Radford? In the last four out of five years our institution became the public face of BLACK college football and I do believe it helped increase our brand. If the MEAC is indeed a sinking ship and we got off just in time, then so be it. But good times in sports never last long. And if in 4 or 5 years our cycle of dominance ends and we are left to squalor in an athletic conference that has no national brand, no resonance amongst African Americans, and no platform that will help us connect with the Black masses that our institution has historically served then this move will be an utter failure.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 11, 2020 0:38:05 GMT -5
Well that's not fair, oleschool. Obviously if we win an FCS National Championship in the next 3 years it wouldn't have been a bad move. Or if we advance to the College World Series is baseball. but you asked "what would make me say the conference change was a bad move" and i gave my honest answer, the announcement alone did it for me. if we win an fcs national championship or advance to the college world series in the next 3 years, the way i see it we could've done it in the meac. i don't believe in "conferences" dictating the success or failure of a college/university. that's like saying clemson would have a better chance of winning a national championship in football by joining a stronger football conference (the sec) where there's less of a chance that they'd even make it to the bcs final 4. look, i'm totally against the move to the big south "in principle", period. regardless of whether we have better national success than in the meac which i doubt will ever happen and even if it does, there's no proof that it couldn't have happened in the meac. i see a&t taking its support away from the meac the same as me giving my financial support to unc to help them win a national championship instead of contributing to a&t even though my roots and my degree comes from a&t...
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Post by Maxell on Feb 11, 2020 2:07:28 GMT -5
If we don't win.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 11, 2020 5:54:45 GMT -5
Do you have a specific winning percentage in mind? Are you talking about conference championships ... or just any record over .500?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 11, 2020 6:18:59 GMT -5
I am also interested in hearing from the Sunshine Gang, i.e. Durhamgsoaggie, WestCoastAggie, VA's Finest and others on this topic.
What factors would make even the most optimistic A&T fans view this move as a mistake?
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Post by DOOMS on Feb 11, 2020 8:00:36 GMT -5
If we're still in the conference by 2030.
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Post by thewinner on Feb 11, 2020 9:12:06 GMT -5
If we follow what Tenn St does ill be ok. They play hbcus for their non conf at least 2-3 games per year. If we get away from that as a whole I think it will be a mistake
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Post by Freeze on Feb 11, 2020 9:27:43 GMT -5
But at some point we wont. That's the natural cycle of sports. Nobody stays on top forever. And when that happens, and our team is 5-7 and playing Monmouth for GHOE, and watching the Campbell University band march into Aggie Stadium, it will be a true test of everybody's Aggie Pride. LOL.
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