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Post by saabman on Jan 14, 2020 13:11:10 GMT -5
Why should beating ND State prevent us from getting national TV exposure, a $800,000 check and the honor of being crowned the best team in HBCU football? I want to beat every team on our schedule next year, including ND State. But I would not be willing to turn my back on a great event like the Celebration Bowl just to seek some outside validation. I was just posting that!! If we beat NDSU, I still want to go to the Celebration Bowl instead of the FCS Pay-for-Playoffs!!
My only question is this: If we go to Fargo undefeated, leave Fargo undefeated and run-the-table the rest of the season, will voters have the guts to crown us the Top Ranked Team in FCS (without playing in their tournament)??Hell no lol. Did that work for FAMU ?
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Post by saabman on Jan 14, 2020 13:17:17 GMT -5
Thanks for informing us on how championships are won OSA...... If we beat NDSU, that doesn't make me desirous to play in the FCS playoffs. It still mystifies me how FCS teams have to pay for home games, round after round after round.....while FBS teams get at least a 6-figure check to play in some of the most meaningless bowl games there are. When FCS programs start getting paid handsomely in the playoffs, I'd be the first to say DITCH THE CELEBRATION BOWL. Until then, I ain't interested in the FCS playoffs. I was at the Richmond game back in 2016......folks barely showed up - there was no excitement (and I'm talking about the home team). How can something soooooooooo important draw flies? By the way, the FCS championship game between JMU and North Dakota State didn't even fill up the 20,500 seat stadium in Frisco,TX. I'm not doubting North Dakota St's greatness......I'm doubting the FCS playoff's significance. There is a difference, which makes me uninterested in being 1 of 24 teams in the playoffs. And most of those fans were from NDSU .
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jan 14, 2020 13:18:23 GMT -5
Frisco Stadium holds 20,500.....the attendance at the game was 17,866. This is the best the FCS championship game can do?
This game is not valued....
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jan 14, 2020 13:28:44 GMT -5
Frisco Stadium holds 20,500.....the attendance at the game was 17,866. This is the best the FCS championship game can do? This game is not valued.... I've been saying that for years. But if we do beat SDSU every HBCU fan will be on the warpath for us to go to the FCS playoff instead of the Celebration Bowl. In my mind, going to the FCS playoff will be a waste.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 14, 2020 14:43:59 GMT -5
nope, i "never" had a problem with playing jacksonville state, period. Oleschool, before I dig in the crates for old quotes and we spend the next 4 months arguing about this, are you sure you want to stand by this statement? You never had a problem with playing Jacksonville State? then get to digging, my friend! just as i stated, the issue was playing jsu and ecu "back to back". it never was solely a jsu thing. we had just come off of that "undefeated" season and i feared a "potential" for 2 losses straight out the gates that wouldn't have felt good after just going 12-0...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 14, 2020 14:56:28 GMT -5
Even if ND State vs. JMU was sold out, that doesn't negate the fact that the 2019 Celebration Bowl had one of the greatest atmospheres I have ever been a part of in my life. First class venue, 32,000 screaming fans and great excitement on and off the field. I like hanging around other HBCU alumni and listening to other HBCU bands. Our football culture is unique and significant and should be, well ... celebrated. Different aint always better. And the current FCS playoff scenario definitely is not a better option right now. ya'll are more worried about "fesitivities" and "bands", than athletic "superiority". for me, athletic "superiority" takes precidence over "fesitivities" and "bands". me personally, i couldn't care less if only 5 folks were in the stands at the fcs national championship cuz that ain't got "jack" to do with the quality of football played. after all, it did actually "snow" in frisco, texas where the national championship game was played. and trust me, if the cb had been played outdoors "in the snow", you could forget about those 32k pretty faces in the seats at the cb and instead there might be more like 5k in the stands, if that. and ya'll know i ain't lying! but back to the topic. i'm more of a "competitor" than folks who cherish "fesitivities" and "bands". what i saw on tv during the ndsu/jmu game was straight up "big boy" football! anybody who compares the swac champions to either of those teams are literally "football insane"! i care more about being "the undisputed best"! anything less than that is "secondary" in my book...
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Post by aggieclt on Jan 14, 2020 15:33:38 GMT -5
Winning is hard! My hope is that we win our first home game (hopefully against a FCS team), have a good showing in Lynchburg, Virginia versus Liberty and not go into Fargo with an 0 - 2 record.
We're in year six of the 'Celebration Bowl or bust' era so, as wonderful as it would be to defeat the Bison (and Liberty), I still have victories over FAMU & SC State as paramount toward our quest to four-peat as Celebration Bowl champs.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jan 14, 2020 15:45:47 GMT -5
Let's keep it real basic.... You have 3 choices: 1) Receive $600K-1 million to play in a bowl 2) Pay $30K+ to host a home playoff game EVERY ROUND 3) Pay nothing, but travel to play at an opposing team's field
That's the choices.......$600K+ vs -$30K vs 0..........
All the talk about playing the best in FCS theoretically sounds nice......but cashing a check vs writing a check is what supercedes any philosophical beliefs any person on this board may have.
If Parker Brothers Chicken called Earl Hilton and said they'd be willing to pay $500K to see A&T play WSSU on Labor Day Weekend.....how many of you all would be saying, "Don't do it Earl. We cherish competition more so than festivities and bands." Drop the payout to even $100K.....y'all don't think our AD wouldn't consider such an offer very seriously......
If we're willing to have our stadium name changed for $100K annually for 15 years, you don't think we're gonna go to a bowl game paying us over $600K+ per lick?
I understand and respect the competition philosophical viewpoint..but y'all know how the old adage goes......Money Talks - BS walks.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 14, 2020 15:54:39 GMT -5
Dang, I miss Parker Brothers.
Why'd you have to remind me of that friend chicken, potato wedges, and strawberry soda ...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jan 14, 2020 16:12:47 GMT -5
....based on BT’s comment, he may be down with playing Winston if a bucket of chicken and a strawberry soda were on the line!! No matter how you slice it, profit/benefit will trump deficit/detriment....particularly on our level of athletics.
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Post by bseballaggie on Jan 14, 2020 16:50:10 GMT -5
We can beat this team they are a excellent team maybe other than Duke the best team we have played in the last 4 years. But we are a excellent team and have a lot of weapons on offense plus a defense that will knock the hell out of you. I am not saying we will win the game but I will say that if we go into the game with the correct game plan and mentality prepared we can win. Let's all plan now to be there to support the AGGIES to victory. if we beat ndsu in fargo, then we ain't got no doggone business playing in no celebration bowl! personally and "honestly", i will be more "shocked" if we beat ndsu in the fargo dome than i was when we beat ecu. i thought we'd lose to ecu, so i've learned my lesson from that. but at the same time, i am a "realist". no fcs team has beaten ndsu in over 3 seasons, so to me the notion that we'll just walk into their "home" dome and do something no other fcs team (much less an hbcu) has done in over 3 years is a bit of a stretch, imo. its easy to look at a team on tv and say we can do this to them or we can do that to them. but jmu is no "pushover" in their own right. ndsu was not playing against a "powder puff". our game against ndsu will be "extraordinarily" difficult for us to win, especially on their home turf. i'm not prepared to rule out an aggie victory because i learned from the ecu experience. but gooosh, beating what's clearly the best fcs team in the country in their own home dome is a heckuva "tall order"... When we beat NDSU we want need a FCS championship, that victory will speak volumes and raise the value of the Celebration Bowl! Beyond that Hilton’s phone will ring off the hook with calls from the JMU’s for a game.
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Jan 14, 2020 18:14:26 GMT -5
Why should beating ND State prevent us from getting national TV exposure, a $800,000 check and the honor of being crowned the best team in HBCU football? I want to beat every team on our schedule next year, including ND State. But I would not be willing to turn my back on a great event like the Celebration Bowl just to seek some outside validation. I was just posting that!! If we beat NDSU, I still want to go to the Celebration Bowl instead of the FCS Pay-for-Playoffs!!
My only question is this: If we go to Fargo undefeated, leave Fargo undefeated and run-the-table the rest of the season, will voters have the guts to crown us the Top Ranked Team in FCS (without playing in their tournament)??NOPE! because 1. it was a early season win, 2. NDSU wins their conference, 3. The Bison have a stronger schedule than us, 4. We got lucky, 5. They dont know what an Aggie is, 6. They dont like our Mascot, 7. If they want to be #1 They should play in the playoffs, 8. *insert random reason here*
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Post by DECKS on Jan 14, 2020 20:40:52 GMT -5
Frisco Stadium holds 20,500.....the attendance at the game was 17,866. This is the best the FCS championship game can do? This game is not valued.... Not if you go by tv ratings which is the best measure of success these days. The FCS championship game drew an impressive 2.7 million viewers.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jan 14, 2020 20:59:11 GMT -5
Decks, If you had a choice, would you have people look at you for free or cut you a check?
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Post by Maxell on Jan 14, 2020 21:06:37 GMT -5
Decks, If you had a choice, would you have people look at you for free or cut you a check? FCS Championship won the viewership race this year, it’s first year on ABC.
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