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Post by lenman1 on Nov 16, 2019 21:07:35 GMT -5
These early games for all intents and purposes are experience games for a young squad with the big prize being the MEAC tournament. Joyner is a solid young coach whose teams have won 19 & 20 games respectively. This is the first year that he has had a young team with freshman and sophomores that he can develop over a 3-4 year period which is the only way a mid-major can be competitive in basketball on a consistent basis. Fred Cleveland is smallish but is a baller and is going to be real good over the next 2-3 years (the kid can play). Lyons is a good athlete and is a hard worker. Morrice has the tools but big men typically develop slower. We are a couple of recruits away from having a program that can win the MEAC every year on a regular basis. The Utah State game will be huge for this teams confidence. LETS HAVE A LITTLE PATIENCE.
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Post by VA's Finest on Nov 17, 2019 0:05:38 GMT -5
These early games for all intents and purposes are experience games for a young squad with the big prize being the MEAC tournament. Joyner is a solid young coach whose teams have won 19 & 20 games respectively. This is the first year that he has had a young team with freshman and sophomores that he can develop over a 3-4 year period which is the only way a mid-major can be competitive in basketball on a consistent basis. Fred Cleveland is smallish but is a baller and is going to be real good over the next 2-3 years (the kid can play). Lyons is a good athlete and is a hard worker. Morrice has the tools but big men typically develop slower. We are a couple of recruits away from having a program that can win the MEAC every year on a regular basis. The Utah State game will be huge for this teams confidence. LETS HAVE A LITTLE PATIENCE. My only gripe with this and let me preface this by saying no disrespect to the young man, but Langley is the exact same player he was three years ago when he arrived on campus. According to Joyner this was the one guy he HAD to sign. Well he did and just havent really seen any development offensively in his game. Now he is a good floor general and facilitator of the offense but with such a young and inexperienced squad this year was hoping to see his offensive production pick up some of the slack until those young guys mature.
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Post by Agg E. Pride on Nov 17, 2019 0:23:13 GMT -5
I just need some clarity. I like langley, but we let Jordan Perkins & KJ Graves leave Greensboro to go to central. We have a 6'11 dude who plays 2 minutes a night. We got excited over a transfer who can do highlight reel dunks in warm-ups, but couldn't hit a shot if the rim was 7 feet. In fact, NOBODY but maybe Maye & Cleveland can shoot it... What is going on with Aggie basketball? You mean to tell me that with the quality high school programs in NC, we can't field a competitive squad? How did UNC-G do it? Someone help me with this. Asking for a friend AND me!
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Post by pommie on Nov 17, 2019 2:19:13 GMT -5
On the shooting percentage , this could be down to lack of gym time. Harry said to me that it was strange that he didn't have access to a gym outside of fixed training sessions. At his prep school in VW , all the team were in the gym shooting hoops outside of regular training sessions. This is fundamental when you want the game shooting percentage from the field and the charity stripe to be high.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Nov 17, 2019 2:50:16 GMT -5
To me, our problem has been building the program top down with grad students and transfers that were not very good at their first school.Too many wasted dollars on these players.The coach at uncg did it from bottom up (signing freshmen) the old fashion way to build his program. We use to do that way back when, and we had coaches that could recruit and teach the game. The jury is out on Coach Joyner's coaching skills, but with the number of freshmen he signed shows that he has figured out what he needs to do to build his program. Hopefully, it is not too late.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Nov 17, 2019 2:52:47 GMT -5
Hopefully, a light bulb goes off in the administration, which includes athletics. Stop scheduling uncg for the first game of the season.
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Post by lenman1 on Nov 17, 2019 9:54:49 GMT -5
Our facilities are substandard which impact our program and ability to recruit. Corbett was a terribly designed facility when it was built and is functionally obsolete by any standard. The fact that we don't have a dedicated practice facility for our players or a gym where students can ball is remarkable for a school with 13,000 students. Where do the respective teams practice and what gym access do the players have after practice hours? Langley is a good kid but is clearly over-rated and an average ballplayer. Haygood is simply an average player and finally coach give the big guy some decent playing time. Finally, what is our relationship with Angelo Hernandez (A&T grad) who coaches at Wilson here in DC, who has the best public high school program in DC and plays a national schedule. The young fellow can coach and he can recruit, we should have a relationship with him. DC residents by virtue of the DC TAG (Tuition Assistance Grant program) are essentially in-state students.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 17, 2019 13:44:27 GMT -5
Our men's basketball strategy is simple...be competitive in the MEAC. This team has been so awful for over 30 years, the Administration and us fans are just happy(content)to win a few games in the conference. And our current coach is capable of doing that. Eventually our Administration will want more than "looking respectable " and want us to step up and beat out of conference games. At that point they are going to need a better coach.
We made that decision in football and it is only a matter of time before we make that decision in men's basketball.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 17, 2019 13:55:29 GMT -5
Our facilities are substandard which impact our program and ability to recruit. Corbett was a terribly designed facility when it was built and is functionally obsolete by any standard. The fact that we don't have a dedicated practice facility for our players or a gym where students can ball is remarkable for a school with 13,000 students. Where do the respective teams practice and what gym access do the players have after practice hours? Langley is a good kid but is clearly over-rated and an average ballplayer. Haygood is simply an average player and finally coach give the big guy some decent playing time. Finally, what is our relationship with Angelo Hernandez (A&T grad) who coaches at Wilson here in DC, who has the best public high school program in DC and plays a national schedule. The young fellow can coach and he can recruit, we should have a relationship with him. DC residents by virtue of the DC TAG (Tuition Assistance Grant program) are essentially in-state students. I'm sure facilities and budget has some impact on our men's basketball team but not nearly as much as coaching. This coach recruited players that can't shoot...do we blame that on lousy seats in Corbett?
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Nov 17, 2019 13:59:53 GMT -5
One thing that requires an immidiate Fix is the slow start our team gets off to in every single game
Every game we find ourselves down by 10 or more in the first 5 minutes
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 17, 2019 14:07:23 GMT -5
Hopefully, a light bulb goes off in the administration, which includes athletics. Stop scheduling uncg for the first game of the season. I read your first sentence and had a totally different reaction. Don't stop scheduling UNCG early...just upgrade your darn program to play better earlier in the season! We may never beat UNCG or other good OOC teams but we sure as heck could look like we've played the game before.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 17, 2019 14:08:42 GMT -5
One thing that requires an immidiate Fix is the slow start our team gets off to in every single game Every game we find ourselves down by 10 or more in the first 5 minutes Because we can't shoot!
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Post by lenman1 on Nov 17, 2019 15:32:12 GMT -5
marchingband1969 The shooting percentages are not just a reflection of the ability of the players to shoot. A big factor is getting good shots out of the offense vs. taking contested shots or shots late in the shot clock. We have a team that has not played together long enough to get into good sets and create open uncontested shots plus we don't have a strong enough point guard who can create openings off dribble penetration. The teams we have played are better and stronger defensively and it shows in the kind of shots we take and the unforced turnovers we have. Confidence has a lot to do with it and in basketball most players are better at home and it showed in our one home game vs how we played on the road. The team was competitive against the No.17 team in the country for 30 minutes, which bodes well going forward.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Nov 17, 2019 15:51:58 GMT -5
Very correct about the kinda shots we take ...Many are late in the shot clock and just not good shots. I get what you saying about sets but sometimes to many sets paralayze your team and becomes more about running the set than scoring.
The players need a little more freedom sets are great but basketball comes first . By that I mean if you running a set play but your man is out position you take that .....Our guys don’t do that cause they worried about being pulled out and drawing the attention of the head coach
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 17, 2019 20:17:07 GMT -5
I don't know the Xs and Os of basketball but I do understand one thing...if your players can't shoot worth a spit, you're going to struggle to win games. And I believe it's the coach's responsibility to recruit players that can shoot and teach them how to get in a position to shoot. Based on what I've seen of our team, we can't do either.
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