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Post by aggieclt on Jan 1, 2019 11:18:25 GMT -5
If it ain"t broke don't fix it. Again, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Thank you
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Post by aggieswag on Jan 5, 2019 9:54:14 GMT -5
Complacency fellas will get you know where. If black people allowed the "if ain't broke don't fix it" mentality we would still be slaves.Espn is making a killing off this game. Nothing wrong with creating more exposure, higher payouts and negotiating better time slots. And nothing wrong with making the event where it's comfortable to the fan base We got to get rid of the mentality "we will take what "they" give us.. and we better be happy.. SMH... Strive to be the best.
You guys are basing this game with us in it. Take A&T out of it you will have a hard time getting 31k in that stadium. our fans have increasingly gone because they know how to make it fun. that's why you see our side full. Not Because everybody or even the majority is solely interested in football jeez..SWAC doesn't come because it lacks culture. Something they have a lot of and we not so much. Alcorn played at home . No travel cost. They didn't come because it's not fun to them based off what a classic looks like. Did you see the Swac championship.. you want them to give that atmosphere up for a bland noon game a week b4 Xmas.
If the HBCU championship is to survive it's got to expand beyond football. I'ma say this again..FOOTBALL HAS ALWAYS HAD A CULTURE THAT GOES BEYOND FOOTBALL! Everyone is not this board and certainly not A&T. The culture means something even if our wine and cheese crowd believes it's irrelevant.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Jan 5, 2019 10:26:34 GMT -5
Ok, well maybe we can have the HBCU Senior Bowl on Friday night, which we will still give HBCU football fans from non-CB schools a reason to travel to Atlanta that weekend. Just gotta find some way to create a ticket package to make both events affordable. I wouldn't do an all-star game the night before. There's a lot of extra logistics, practice time, etc that goes with an event like that on top of the CB. What I would consider is doing a HBCU Skills Competition from maybe 10-11 am, leaving the CB teams their hour of warmup leading up to the noon kickoff. If we had that in 2018... would have had a chance to see Amir Hall in passing drills. If we had that in 2017... maybe would have seen Trent Cannon (5th round pick from Virginia St.) in run/catch drills.
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Post by aggieblackie on Jan 5, 2019 11:49:41 GMT -5
Again, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Bring us our money!
Five years ago this bowl was not in existence. Many people on this site was against it at first and may still be.
If a team is fortunate enough to make the CB that is gravy for their school and conference.
No need to have 6 bands competing against each other. There are several events staged for that.
My only pet peeve is the SWAC fans don't show up. We have to find a way to get them to participate. We could have had 40,000 or more fans at that game if they had done their part.
All we have to do, both conferences is play, bring a lot if fans and enjoy the money both conferences will receive.
ESPN and the sponsor Air Force don't won't no CIAA atmosphere.
If it ain't broke don't fix it!!
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Post by captaggie on Jan 5, 2019 12:08:59 GMT -5
While CIAA has sponsors, why doesn't it have a 'title' sponsor? An event which has a consistent economic impact of 40 to 50 million dollars.
Transform the CB into the CIAA and you'll be asking yourself my lead question.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Jan 5, 2019 12:30:02 GMT -5
Again, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Bring us our money! Five years ago this bowl was not in existence. Many people on this site was against it at first and may still be. If a team is fortunate enough to make the CB that is gravy for their school and conference. No need to have 6 bands competing against each other. There are several events staged for that. My only pet peeve is the SWAC fans don't show up. We have to find a way to get them to participate. We could have had 40,000 or more fans at that game if they had done their part. All we have to do, both conferences is play, bring a lot if fans and enjoy the money both conferences will receive. ESPN and the sponsor Air Force don't won't no CIAA atmosphere. If it ain't broke don't fix it!! Living in SWAC country I can tell you the only SWAC fans that travel and support athletics are Southern, PV, and Grambling .Attendance would have been significantly better had Southern won the SWAC championship game.
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Post by aggieswag on Jan 5, 2019 17:27:24 GMT -5
Again, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Bring us our money! Five years ago this bowl was not in existence. Many people on this site was against it at first and may still be. If a team is fortunate enough to make the CB that is gravy for their school and conference. No need to have 6 bands competing against each other. There are several events staged for that. My only pet peeve is the SWAC fans don't show up. We have to find a way to get them to participate. We could have had 40,000 or more fans at that game if they had done their part. All we have to do, both conferences is play, bring a lot if fans and enjoy the money both conferences will receive. ESPN and the sponsor Air Force don't won't no CIAA atmosphere. If it ain't broke don't fix it!! Who cares what they want and what makes you think they would not want it. I would not imagine that a group marketing the event does not want to create a better atmosphere. And if it's after the game than they really don't care. Just because it's not broke does not mean you don't make it better. It's 2019 it's okay to be black and promote black events. It's ok if we celebrate black culture. We don't need white people's permission anymore.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jan 5, 2019 23:52:09 GMT -5
If it ain"t broke don't fix it. Again, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Thank you I wish folks spent as much time trying to figure out how to get more paying fans at our home games as they do for this one postseason game. I think two or three sellouts in Aggie Stadium is much more important to our athletic budget than getting a few more fans at the Celebration Bowl. Home game attendance is broke and needs to be fixed, not the Celebration Bowl!
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Post by aggieblackie on Jan 6, 2019 20:32:46 GMT -5
'69 our attendance at football games at home are not great and they are not bad. This topic needs to have it's own category.
The topic for this subject is "in your opinion, how can the Celebration Bowl be better"?
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Post by DECKS on Jan 7, 2019 9:46:51 GMT -5
Complacency fellas will get you know where. If black people allowed the "if ain't broke don't fix it" mentality we would still be slaves.Espn is making a killing off this game. Nothing wrong with creating more exposure, higher payouts and negotiating better time slots. And nothing wrong with making the event where it's comfortable to the fan base We got to get rid of the mentality "we will take what "they" give us.. and we better be happy.. SMH... Strive to be the best. You guys are basing this game with us in it. Take A&T out of it you will have a hard time getting 31k in that stadium. our fans have increasingly gone because they know how to make it fun. that's why you see our side full. Not Because everybody or even the majority is solely interested in football jeez..SWAC doesn't come because it lacks culture. Something they have a lot of and we not so much. Alcorn played at home . No travel cost. They didn't come because it's not fun to them based off what a classic looks like. Did you see the Swac championship.. you want them to give that atmosphere up for a bland noon game a week b4 Xmas. If the HBCU championship is to survive it's got to expand beyond football. I'ma say this again..FOOTBALL HAS ALWAYS HAD A CULTURE THAT GOES BEYOND FOOTBALL! Everyone is not this board and certainly not A&T. The culture means something even if our wine and cheese crowd believes it's irrelevant. Cultute has nothing to do with it. The SWAC folks aren't showing up because their azz is broke by the time the CB rolls around 10 days before Xmas. Magic City Classic, Bayou Classic and SWAC Championship game is too much.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 7, 2019 10:13:45 GMT -5
This thread is the perfect illustration of the lack of vision that plagues the majority of our fanbase.
Just because you have no imagination is not a reason to stand pat with the status quo.
The CB has benefited from having 4 close games in 4 years and having A&T - the largest HBCU in the nation - participate in 3 of those 4 years.
Logic would suggest that wont always be the case. The challenge is to have the game still be a successful draw if A&T, FAMU, SCSU, Southern or Jackson State is not involved.
31K is a good number for this year, but now is they time when you need to build on that momentum and prepare for when the match-ups are not as favorable.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Jan 7, 2019 11:16:38 GMT -5
It's an issue the FCS championship has the same problem. For the last 5 years NDSU is in the championship game. The venue in Frisco is much smaller as maximum seating is 27K. Every year the Bison folks invade Frisco and probably represent 23,000 of the fans in the stadium. Since I leave in Frisco the only opposing team that really showed up in force was JMU.
IF NDSU got knocked off I am sure the promoters for this game would cringe and probably look to sale tickets to the local folks in north Texas / Dallas area.
So maybe thats the answer for the Celebration bowl...............look to promote and expand tickets to folks who reside in the ATL metro. You certainly have the target audience
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jan 7, 2019 11:25:19 GMT -5
This thread is the perfect illustration of the lack of vision that plagues the majority of our fanbase. Just because you have no imagination is not a reason to stand pat with the status quo. The CB has benefited from having 4 close games in 4 years and having A&T - the largest HBCU in the nation - participate in 3 of those 4 years. Logic would suggest that wont always be the case. The challenge is to have the game still be a successful draw if A&T, FAMU, SCSU, Southern or Jackson State is not involved. 31K is a good number for this year, but now is they time when you need to build on that momentum and prepare for when the match-ups are not as favorable. You are right, the Celebration Bowl was lucky that there were 4 close games and we played in 3 out of 4 of those games. But that was complete luck. And if Hampton had gone and gotten blown out the first year, it may have killed it. That said, I don't think I'm being complacent because I don't think we should add more events to that weekend. I like the emphasis to be on the game. I'd like more creativity around how the conference can encourage more fans to attend the game but that's all I think it needs. If the Celebration Bowl was a sellout there would be more buzz for it in our community and in the sponsor's boardrooms.
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Post by aggieswag on Jan 7, 2019 11:42:01 GMT -5
Complacency fellas will get you know where. If black people allowed the "if ain't broke don't fix it" mentality we would still be slaves.Espn is making a killing off this game. Nothing wrong with creating more exposure, higher payouts and negotiating better time slots. And nothing wrong with making the event where it's comfortable to the fan base We got to get rid of the mentality "we will take what "they" give us.. and we better be happy.. SMH... Strive to be the best. You guys are basing this game with us in it. Take A&T out of it you will have a hard time getting 31k in that stadium. our fans have increasingly gone because they know how to make it fun. that's why you see our side full. Not Because everybody or even the majority is solely interested in football jeez..SWAC doesn't come because it lacks culture. Something they have a lot of and we not so much. Alcorn played at home . No travel cost. They didn't come because it's not fun to them based off what a classic looks like. Did you see the Swac championship.. you want them to give that atmosphere up for a bland noon game a week b4 Xmas. If the HBCU championship is to survive it's got to expand beyond football. I'ma say this again..FOOTBALL HAS ALWAYS HAD A CULTURE THAT GOES BEYOND FOOTBALL! Everyone is not this board and certainly not A&T. The culture means something even if our wine and cheese crowd believes it's irrelevant. Cultute has nothing to do with it. The SWAC folks aren't showing up because their azz is broke by the time the CB rolls around 10 days before Xmas. Magic City Classic, Bayou Classic and SWAC Championship game is too much. I challenge this because again Alcorn State had more fans than we did the first time. Yes they had the swac championship games at that was in their home stadium they didn't spend $1 fact they probably made money. It has everything to do with culture.
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Post by aggierattler on Jan 7, 2019 11:57:17 GMT -5
It's an issue the FCS championship has the same problem. For the last 5 years NDSU is in the championship game. The venue in Frisco is much smaller as maximum seating is 27K. Every year the Bison folks invade Frisco and probably represent 23,000 of the fans in the stadium. Since I leave in Frisco the only opposing team that really showed up in force was JMU. IF NDSU got knocked off I am sure the promoters for this game would cringe and probably look to sale tickets to the local folks in north Texas / Dallas area. So maybe thats the answer for the Celebration bowl...............look to promote and expand tickets to folks who reside in the ATL metro. You certainly have the target audience You are 100% right, and I've been saying that for 2 years now.
John Grant has got to find a way to get the football fans of Atlanta much more mobilized and engaged in this game...and it starts now (in January-February).
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