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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 14, 2018 13:26:09 GMT -5
I understand the argument Oleschool but, I don't believe that to be the motive of the new poster. It sounds to me he has the same exact concern as many of us do as to why the band isn't going. then why did the poster have to call our chancellor and his administration, "he and his cronies"? was that necessary? "being concerned" means its okay to insult our chancellor? why couldn't the poster have been more "respectful" of who he/she was criticizing if its just "being concerned"? that's akin to me meddling in your family affairs only because i'm upset that your wife or significant other wouldn't let you come to a football game. as an outsider, is it my place to tell you how to handle your family business? see ohsix, my thing is this. sure, its okay for an outsider to express their desire to see the bgmm in alabama. i have no problem with that. but i do have a problem with an outsider "insulting" my fellow aggie who just so happens to be our beloved chancellor. nah, that don't fly with me. be "respectful" doggone it. where i grew up, its okay for family to call family names if they choose to. but outsiders can't call your family names, it would be "fighting words" coming from an outsider. so its not an outsider's place to "insult" our leadership, demand aggie alums to call our administration "cronies" and demand that our administration stay home. its one thing for a fellow aggie to say something like that, but for an "outsider"? aah, hail no! that's not appropriate...
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Aug 14, 2018 13:45:52 GMT -5
Additionally this game is in the home of another fellow HBCU and a local population that will appreciate the BGMM. This the opportunity to expand our brand into the Deep South and SWAC territory. This is a really big game, 2 top FCS programs playing each other on national television. I could be wrong, but I don’t see local HBCU fans flicking to this game just because of the BGMM...and even if they did how would it offset our costs? Is this game being marketed to local HBCU fans...I’m thinking they are more focused on the home town school. Yes, this is a game between two top FCS programs...calling it a big game...well that’s debatable. Two teams that have little to no history with very little in common, playing at a neutral site. Outside of it being a TV game what’s he draw. This is the problem with FCS. Small schools/programs tend to be regional. If this wasn’t a TV game I doubt either school would be interested, let alone be sending their bands. If the game were played in charlotte maybe A&T sends its band...but then why would Jacksonville send their band...and would people in NC know who they are or even care who Jacksonville state is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 14:04:10 GMT -5
Additionally this game is in the home of another fellow HBCU and a local population that will appreciate the BGMM. This the opportunity to expand our brand into the Deep South and SWAC territory. This is a really big game, 2 top FCS programs playing each other on national television. I could be wrong, but I don’t see local HBCU fans flicking to this game just because of the BGMM...and even if they did how would it offset our costs? Is this game being marketed to local HBCU fans...I’m thinking they are more focused on the home town school. Yes, this is a game between two top FCS programs...calling it a big game...well that’s debatable. Two teams that have little to no history with very little in common, playing at a neutral site. Outside of it being a TV game what’s he draw. This is the problem with FCS. Small schools/programs tend to be regional. If this wasn’t a TV game I doubt either school would be interested, let alone be sending their bands. If the game were played in charlotte maybe A&T sends its band...but then why would Jacksonville send their band...and would people in NC know who they are or even care who Jacksonville state is. This is a "big game" because it's featuring the champion of the MEAC, and BCF National Champs against the OVC Champion and a consensus top-10 FCS team. I know you don't give a crap about any kind of football on the FCS level aside from HBCUS, but you gotta acknowledge the hugeness and rarity of two top FCS teams playing in a neutral-site game. The game is a historical measuring stick for both teams and schools. If the game was in Charlotte, Jacksonville State would send their band, which is a great corp-style band.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Aug 14, 2018 14:04:21 GMT -5
I agree with you 100%, A&T Aggie 96. If this game wasn't on television, I wouldn't have taken it....but it is. And when there's TV involved, you gotta promote your school/brand to the utmost degree. You just don't see many FCS games on national TV. A&T has to understand that moving forward. If anything, they've seen from our CB games being on national TV how those games benefit our school and its brand.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 14:06:50 GMT -5
I agree with you 100%, A&T Aggie 96. If this game wasn't on television, I wouldn't have taken it....but it is. And when there's TV involved, you gotta promote your school/brand to the utmost degree. You just don't see many FCS games on national TV. A&T has to understand that moving forward. If anything, they've seen from our CB games being on national TV how those games benefit our school and its brand. You can argue the A&T brand, along with Jax State being top-10 FCS are why the game received a prime-time slot on ESPN in the middle of the Little League World Series.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Aug 14, 2018 14:11:28 GMT -5
I don't disagree WCA......but if it wasn't a televised game, I wouldn't have taken it. I'm glad it is, so let's show up and show out.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 14, 2018 14:18:00 GMT -5
Like onefansopinion previously stated, not having the band in attendance is going to make us look really low budget to the viewing audience. Especially if ESPN shows even brief highlights on the Marching Southerners pranching around during their halftime show. Plus we are going to have no sound support from the Machine in the stands and after touchdowns.
Just like the ho-hum rollout of our new helmets and uniforms, I hate when we appear to do things in a half-azzed manner.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Aug 14, 2018 14:26:56 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I don’t see local HBCU fans flicking to this game just because of the BGMM...and even if they did how would it offset our costs? Is this game being marketed to local HBCU fans...I’m thinking they are more focused on the home town school. Yes, this is a game between two top FCS programs...calling it a big game...well that’s debatable. Two teams that have little to no history with very little in common, playing at a neutral site. Outside of it being a TV game what’s he draw. This is the problem with FCS. Small schools/programs tend to be regional. If this wasn’t a TV game I doubt either school would be interested, let alone be sending their bands. If the game were played in charlotte maybe A&T sends its band...but then why would Jacksonville send their band...and would people in NC know who they are or even care who Jacksonville state is. This is a "big game" because it's featuring the champion of the MEAC, and BCF National Champs against the OVC Champion and a consensus top-10 FCS team. I know you don't give a crap about any kind of football on the FCS level aside from HBCUS, but you gotta acknowledge the hugeness and rarity of two top FCS teams playing in a neutral-site game. The game is a historical measuring stick for both teams and schools. If the game was in Charlotte, Jacksonville State would send their band, which is a great corp-style band. Your 100% correct...like most people I care very little for FCS football. Outside of HBCUS I have no interest in the teams or the schools...and seeing that when it comes to FCS football most fans share my opinion you gotta acknowledge attaching words like hugeness and historical to this game is a bit of a stretch. It makes sense to me that Jacksonville state would send their band to a televised in state game...but I doubt they would do the same if they were in A&Ts shoes. Just being honest, I gotta call it like I see it.
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Post by aggie2039 on Aug 14, 2018 14:28:54 GMT -5
This is a "big game" because it's featuring the champion of the MEAC, and BCF National Champs against the OVC Champion and a consensus top-10 FCS team. I know you don't give a crap about any kind of football on the FCS level aside from HBCUS, but you gotta acknowledge the hugeness and rarity of two top FCS teams playing in a neutral-site game. The game is a historical measuring stick for both teams and schools. If the game was in Charlotte, Jacksonville State would send their band, which is a great corp-style band. Your 100% correct...like most people I care very little for FCS football. Outside of HBCUS I have no interest in the teams or the schools...and seeing that when it comes to FCS football most fans share my opinion you gotta acknowledge attaching words like hugeness and historical to this game is a bit of a stretch. It makes sense to me that Jacksonville state would send their band to a televised in state game...but I doubt they would do the same if they were in A&Ts shoes. Just being honest, I gotta call it like I see it. This game matters a lot to the players and HBCU football as a whole, how people don’t understand this I just don’t get.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Aug 14, 2018 14:30:24 GMT -5
500 miles and an overnight stay.....that's a lot of money. I'm not disgusted by the band not going to Montgomery.
Greenville is a completely different animal - there's simply no excuse for that one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 14:43:01 GMT -5
Your 100% correct...like most people I care very little for FCS football. Outside of HBCUS I have no interest in the teams or the schools...and seeing that when it comes to FCS football most fans share my opinion you gotta acknowledge attaching words like hugeness and historical to this game is a bit of a stretch. It makes sense to me that Jacksonville state would send their band to a televised in state game...but I doubt they would do the same if they were in A&Ts shoes. Just being honest, I gotta call it like I see it. This game matters a lot to the players and HBCU football as a whole, how people don’t understand this I just don’t get. It’s something our kids have been hype about since the spring. This is the FBS equivalent of Central Florida playing Georgia to start the season.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Aug 14, 2018 14:50:21 GMT -5
Your 100% correct...like most people I care very little for FCS football. Outside of HBCUS I have no interest in the teams or the schools...and seeing that when it comes to FCS football most fans share my opinion you gotta acknowledge attaching words like hugeness and historical to this game is a bit of a stretch. It makes sense to me that Jacksonville state would send their band to a televised in state game...but I doubt they would do the same if they were in A&Ts shoes. Just being honest, I gotta call it like I see it. This game matters a lot to the players and HBCU football as a whole, how people don’t understand this I just don’t get. If you say so, I’m just being honest. I don’t know if playing Jax State matters more to the players than playing Jackson State. From a HBCU fan perspective however, there is a big difference. If you want to excite me about a OOC game against a OVC team if you ain’t talking Tenn State you wasting your time. Can’t see why this game matters to HBCU football as a whole because I don’t think we have anything to prove. Oh I completely get it...I just don’t care. Jax State is not a game that excites me as a fan. That’s just the truth. I don’t care about their ranking, their corps style band, their OVC championships, and have no connections to the school...and just being honest, if this wasn’t a ESPN game our AD would have passed on it...damn sure not going to sink more money into it then we have to. If this game was as big and historical as some are claiming there would be a payout large enough to cover travel for the band.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Aug 14, 2018 15:01:04 GMT -5
This game matters a lot to the players and HBCU football as a whole, how people don’t understand this I just don’t get. It’s something our kids have been hype about since the spring. This is the FBS equivalent of Central Florida playing Georgia to start the season. Only problem is this ain’t Central Florida playing Georgia. At least that would be considered a regional game with Georgia and Florida being boarder states. This is the FCS Kick Off game where we have to travel damn near 500 miles to play a team most of our fans have never heard of at a neutral site...FBS equivalent, come on.
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 14, 2018 15:17:59 GMT -5
It’s something our kids have been hype about since the spring. This is the FBS equivalent of Central Florida playing Georgia to start the season. Only problem is this ain’t Central Florida playing Georgia. At least that would be considered a regional game with Georgia and Florida being boarder states. This is the FCS Kick Off game where we have to travel damn near 500 miles to play a team most of our fans have never heard of at a neutral site...FBS equivalent, come on. You're missing the point...any time you have an opportunity to put your university on full display on ESPN, you should. They say success is when preparedness meets opportunity, well there sits the opportunity, the question is are we prepared...?? At this point, the fans are at the mercy of the decision but, I know if I turn on ESPN and A&T is playing football, I would like to see the band in the stands no matter who they are playing.
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Post by The Professor on Aug 14, 2018 15:45:13 GMT -5
It makes no sense the band isnt going. They hadnt scheduled the trip because of the Battle of the Bands that was supposed to be in Houston. (They moved it from Charlotte) since that is now cancelled, there isnt an excuse.
I was in the band when Renick was chancellor. He made sure we were where the football team was. Hell we rode Greyhound buses to FAMU because the charter bus company was booked. Its no excuse. This is a nationally televised game. A chance for us to show the world A&T and all its components. And as an alum of the machine , im disappointed
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