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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Jan 10, 2018 23:56:19 GMT -5
I knew Strick personally and he was a great player and person who passed unexpectedly too young. Bad joke about renaming the field house. Please board members, quit ragging Coach Hayes. He was a great coach and really put our program on the map. How soon we forget. I wish we would quit ragging Coach Maynor also who is a great person and former Aggie great. No respect! I never said the man wasn't a a great coach, but i do believe in the Hayes Curse...hell if I were Hayes and A&T name the stadium after B-Way while I'm still hold the distinction of "all time winningest coach" I'd be pissed to the highest level... As for Maynor, he gets ragged on here because the man ain't really put nothing of note on the field at the FCS level yet his fans wanna put him on to lead this program... we wanna see some results beyond 6-5 seasons where you tie for 4th in the MEAC as your best showing. I aint saying that he wont get his dream job of coaching here, but I think he would have to be a position coach and get promoted from within in order for it to happen...just my opinion
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 11, 2018 7:42:08 GMT -5
Let's not forget, Maynor was offered the job in 2011 and he turned it down.
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Post by AggieMac on Jan 11, 2018 8:36:06 GMT -5
Let's not forget, Maynor was offered the job in 2011 and he turned it down. Very true. However, via a source very close to him that I know personally, he was heavily influenced by poppa Bill Hayes on that deal and regrets now after the fact. At that time the feud between Bill Hayes, WSSU, and A&T was still at it's peak. No excuse though, you have to be a man at the end of the day.
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Post by aggieblackie on Jan 11, 2018 23:39:39 GMT -5
I knew Strick personally and he was a great player and person who passed unexpectedly too young. Bad joke about renaming the field house. Please board members, quit ragging Coach Hayes. He was a great coach and really put our program on the map. How soon we forget. I wish we would quit ragging Coach Maynor also who is a great person and former Aggie great. No respect! I never said the man wasn't a a great coach, but i do believe in the Hayes Curse...hell if I were Hayes and A&T name the stadium after B-Way while I'm still hold the distinction of "all time winningest coach" I'd be pissed to the highest level... As for Maynor, he gets ragged on here because the man ain't really put nothing of note on the field at the FCS level yet his fans wanna put him on to lead this program... we wanna see some results beyond 6-5 seasons where you tie for 4th in the MEAC as your best showing. I aint saying that he wont get his dream job of coaching here, but I think he would have to be a position coach and get promoted from within in order for it to happen...just my opinion
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Post by aggieblackie on Jan 11, 2018 23:55:20 GMT -5
They can name the stadium - Hayes-Broadway similar to Cal Irvin-Don Corbett floor in the gym.
Coach Hayes does get ragged from Aggies who may have not liked his personal life or because he did not bow down to them or kiss their azz. He was a winner every school he went to as far as coaching and AD.
My gripe about the treatment of Maynor is this man is an all time Aggie great and Aggie. Just because his record was not 10-2, 11-1 or 12-0 he is treated as though he has beri beri.
We don't really know the true cooperation he received at Hampton. Let us see how their new coach does in their new tootie fruity conference.
Maynor will be back as a winner.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 13, 2018 11:25:57 GMT -5
Rod Broadway Retires: Where Does He Rank Among HBCU All-Time Greats?Broadway has five total black college football national championships, three mythical while at North Carolina Central University and Grambling State University, and two actual by way of victories in the Celebration Bowl. He has five conference titles across the CIAA, MEAC and SWAC, and finishes his career with 127 victories in 14 seasons. Read more: hbcudigest.com/rod-broadway-retires-where-does-he-rank-among-hbcu-all-time-greats/
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Post by Maxell on Jan 13, 2018 13:03:45 GMT -5
If we drew the line at 1980 - Present, and said Eddie Robinson is number one, how would you rank the rest?
1. Eddie Robinson - Grambling
Bill Davis - SCSU John Merritt - Tenn State Billy Joe - Central State, Florida A&M Bill Hayes - NCA&T Pete Richardson - Southern Steve Wilson - Howard Doug Williams - Grambling Joe Taylor - Hampton Rod Broadway - NCCU, Grambling, NCA&T Willie Slater - Tuskegee Connell Maynor - WSSU Mike White - Albany State Oliver Pough - SCSU
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 13, 2018 13:09:27 GMT -5
Which season was more impressive?
Maynor going undefeated until the D2 National title game in 2012 and finishing 14-1 ... or Broadway going 12-0 this year and winning his second Celebration Bowl in 3 years?
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Post by Maxell on Jan 13, 2018 13:23:47 GMT -5
Which season was more impressive? Maynor going undefeated until the D2 National title game in 2012 and finishing 14-1 ... or Broadway going 12-0 this year and winning his second Celebration Bowl in 3 years? As a single season, probably Maynor and WSSU because of the consecutive week playoff grind.
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Post by DOOMS on Jan 13, 2018 13:34:00 GMT -5
Maynor. He beat d-2 pwc playoff powerhouses with less scholarships several weeks in a row, and beat them handily. That was the most impressive run by an hbcu I've seen in my lifetime.
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Post by aggielaw on Jan 13, 2018 15:16:25 GMT -5
Manor had D-1 talent....
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Post by DOOMS on Jan 13, 2018 15:39:30 GMT -5
So did the teams he was playing. It's already been proven every team he played had a large number of transfers from d-1 schools. In addition, those schools were successfully recruiting all races while Winston was basically only recruiting a segment of black players that wanted to attend an hbcu. Furthermore if you look at the offers for most of the players both we and Winston and central had at that time, they were almost all from d-2 schools and us. So that "D-1 talent" argument falls flat on its face.
I still can't believe anybody even makes it after all these years.
Maynor's one true d-1 level recruit that other d-1 schools somewhat heavily recruited was his qb. That's a very important position of course, but he transferred in from Navy. If you watch Navy, you know they don't be passing but like four times a game.
Broadway had a qb transfer in from Oregon and another from West Virginia while he was at Central and had home playoff games. I'll leave the rest of that alone. It's pretty much unheard of for an hbcu to win a playoff game against a pwc at any level. As far as I know there've only been four coaches to win even ONE. Billy Joe won a few NAIA titles and Connell got all the way to the NCAA d-2 big dance. I never hear anybody saying Billy Joe's wins should be discredited because his players were all 28 years old, so I don't get why anybody tries to discredit Connell's accomplishments. ESPECIALLY his own fellow alumni.
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Post by aggielaw on Jan 13, 2018 15:49:10 GMT -5
He never graduated any of those guys and had Hayes in his back pocket. He was exposed at Hampton.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 13, 2018 15:52:23 GMT -5
... had Hayes in his back pocket. What does that even mean? A football coach is not supposed to work closely with his Athletics Director? Did Broadway have Hilton in his back pocket?
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Post by aggielaw on Jan 13, 2018 17:22:01 GMT -5
Hayes' last year he redshirted 75 players. I spoke with a player after the Howard loss. The player indicated that he had never been associated with any program that was so unprofessional, unorganized and out of control. Martin would not put up with the Hayes run program.
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