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Post by ArrangerNCAT on Sept 8, 2014 19:52:34 GMT -5
No one is crying, just pointing out that we go through this at the beginning of every season. Now, if you can't pick up on the sarcasm, then that's on you. I couldn't care less about what any of you all think, positive or negative, and the band will play on with or without me. It's good to see folks coming out of the woodworks under such dire circumstances, though.
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Post by aggieblackie on Sept 8, 2014 23:22:34 GMT -5
If we had won the game - nothing would be said about the band playing at supposedly inopportune times. This subject is brought up every year and nothing has changed.
My gripe is the "wine & cheese" crowd that are too vain to stand, cheer, holler, stump and raise hell to support our team in critical situations. The cheer leaders are working their butts off to get our fans to stand up and we sit there like the fans at a Carolina basketball game.
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Post by Bigboy on Sept 9, 2014 12:53:19 GMT -5
I did not see where it became a problem. The officials never warned the band about playing. At least the band is always trying to get the fans hyped up. Keep up the good work B&GMM. Ya'll really sound good this year as always. Now, when the officials start to warn the band then it is time to consider playing a little softer during the action.
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Post by sweetheart1 on Sept 9, 2014 13:01:40 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is crying or taking away from the fact that the BGMM is supported on this site. I think from an internal standpoint, we wish that our hazardous practice conditions could generate three pages of discussion in only a few days. His sarcasm doesn't negate the truth and the observations still stand... The band has worked on this tremendously over the years, - teaching signals that bring the band down (volume) or even to cut off midsong when necessary (pre-headset of course) So, lets at least acknowledge that and know efforts are being made. The band doesn't disregard the team, as it is often portrayed. 1) if fans choose to write letters about the band playing when they don't want them to (or not playing when they want them to, or not playing the right song or the right length song, or all of the above), just be sure to include some additional (and more critical) issues highers up need to hear and 2) In this case, Chancellor Martin could have been in a helmet and shoulders pads flapping at us on the sideline to play (or hush)...like I've already stated, whoever is on the headset told us when we could play and we honored that to a T. So new to 2014...its not us...find out the voice on the other end of the headset and that fixes it all. Maybe.
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Post by sweetheart1 on Sept 9, 2014 13:02:32 GMT -5
If we had won the game - nothing would be said about the band playing at supposedly inopportune times. This subject is brought up every year and nothing has changed. My gripe is the "wine & cheese" crowd that are too vain to stand, cheer, holler, stump and raise hell to support our team in critical situations. The cheer leaders are working their butts off to get our fans to stand up and we sit there like the fans at a Carolina basketball game. OH LORD YES!!!!! SPOT ON
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Post by ArrangerNCAT on Sept 9, 2014 17:47:05 GMT -5
Bringing the band's volume down is risky because there's always the chance of that one player that isn't watching, who will then blast out a few notes at a triple-forte while the rest of the band is at pianissimo. As a result, it takes some rehearsal time in the actual stands to get it perfect--time that just isn't as feasible at the beginning of the season (when we are learning songs in the key of A Major and doing 150+ pages of drills and doing 25 minutes worth of shows by the end of August, some things tend to get put on the back burner). As we progress through the season, we then have more time to work on those other things and to hone those particular competencies. So, in lieu of bringing this up at this time every season, think back to when you were on staff at a collegiate marching band and had to juggle so many things to teach the band at the beginning of the year. It's always easier when you're sitting in the armchair...
We all want to do the right thing, and we take steps to do so every season, but when folks come out the woodworks and try to blame the band for why the team may or may not have been distracted during a critical series, you're gonna see my BS card, and I'm going to point out that the band wasn't playing when Coastal Carolina was shredding the secondary and that the band didn't cause one of our players to deliver a block in the back, which negated a touchdown--I'll just sip my tea on that...
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Sept 9, 2014 18:19:58 GMT -5
Im just gonna sit in the corner and see just how "Messy" this thread is gonna get....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 18:52:40 GMT -5
Im just gonna sit in the corner and see just how "Messy" this thread is gonna get.... HA!
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 9, 2014 19:57:13 GMT -5
How feasible would it be for the band to play situational snippets throughout the game that accented the action on the field?
I know the FBS bands do it during their games. Is that something that could be done here?
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Post by ohsixrain on Sept 9, 2014 20:20:12 GMT -5
Bringing the band's volume down is risky because there's always the chance of that one player that isn't watching, who will then blast out a few notes at a triple-forte while the rest of the band is at pianissimo. As a result, it takes some rehearsal time in the actual stands to get it perfect--time that just isn't as feasible at the beginning of the season (when we are learning songs in the key of A Major and doing 150+ pages of drills and doing 25 minutes worth of shows by the end of August, some things tend to get put on the back burner). As we progress through the season, we then have more time to work on those other things and to hone those particular competencies. So, in lieu of bringing this up at this time every season, think back to when you were on staff at a collegiate marching band and had to juggle so many things to teach the band at the beginning of the year. It's always easier when you're sitting in the armchair... We all want to do the right thing, and we take steps to do so every season, but when folks come out the woodworks and try to blame the band for why the team may or may not have been distracted during a critical series, you're gonna see my BS card, and I'm going to point out that the band wasn't playing when Coastal Carolina was shredding the secondary and that the band didn't cause one of our players to deliver a block in the back, which negated a touchdown--I'll just sip my tea on that... Ut-oh....shots fired!!!!
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Post by ArrangerNCAT on Sept 9, 2014 21:09:12 GMT -5
How feasible would it be for the band to play situational snippets throughout the game that accented the action on the field? I know the FBS bands do it during their games. Is that something that could be done here? It has been on the table for quite some time, so it's just a matter of finding the time to write them out and practice them... It's actually quite feasible, and the headset would not factor into it at all...
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Post by Bigboy on Sept 10, 2014 11:45:32 GMT -5
I never once saw where the officials warned the band to stop playing, so why is this such a big deal??? Thank god the band is at least trying to get the fans hyped up. I never saw in this game where their playing became a problem. Maybe it's just me but I did not see a problem.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 10, 2014 13:33:07 GMT -5
man, i really wish this hadn't turned so messy. but i can see both sides of the story. i've seen times when the band was playing and action was taking place on the field, but it caused no distractions. but then there are times in critical situations when our guys need to be able hear our qb's signals and quite possibly any "audibles" called from the line of scrimmage, that's when i think the band needs to lower their volume.
but for the most part, i don't think the band was a distraction to the action on the field. just during critical moments (especially when we're on offense), it would help our team if the band turns down their volume a little bit...
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Post by oldschool on Sept 10, 2014 16:57:45 GMT -5
I never once saw where the officials warned the band to stop playing, so why is this such a big deal??? Thank god the band is at least trying to get the fans hyped up. I never saw in this game where their playing became a problem. Maybe it's just me but I did not see a problem. The officials will not do anything unless the head coach complains to them . If Coastal's coach would have complained they would be given a warning the first time , and a flag the second time . They never complained , and I don't care if they play as long or as loud as they want to when the opposing team has the ball . Our coaches would never complain to the refs because that would only hurt us . I don't see why it's considered a big deal ,because we have had threads on this site go on for 30 or more pages , and this is only 3 pages thus far . The only concern that was raised was to have the band lower the volume when we come to the line of scrimmage , somehow that has been twisted into something totally different .
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Post by oldschool on Sept 10, 2014 17:03:42 GMT -5
man, i really wish this hadn't turned so messy. but i can see both sides of the story. i've seen times when the band was playing and action was taking place on the field, but it caused no distractions. but then there are times in critical situations when our guys need to be able hear our qb's signals and quite possibly any "audibles" called from the line of scrimmage, that's when i think the band needs to lower their volume.
but for the most part, i don't think the band was a distraction to the action on the field. just during critical moments (especially when we're on offense), it would help our team if the band turns down their volume a little bit...[/quote] That's it in a nutshell ,very simple , no is blaming the BGMM for any of our losses. There is a major difference between when we are up by 30 points ,and when we are down by 1 point or 1 touchdown .
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