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Post by ibleedblue on May 14, 2014 9:34:38 GMT -5
I know this comes up every few years but this time seems a little Different. Almost like its really going to happen this time. Has only one heard anyhing about this?
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Post by captaggie on May 14, 2014 11:10:35 GMT -5
If you do not have any credible sources for this subject, why post this rumor?
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Post by ibleedblue on May 14, 2014 11:17:52 GMT -5
this is coming from a DEAN!!
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Post by captaggie on May 14, 2014 11:46:26 GMT -5
ibleedblue, check you pm.
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Post by marchingband1969 on May 14, 2014 19:09:44 GMT -5
Man it's a slow news day when the rumor pops up...again. I came to A&T in 1965 and that rumor was being whispered way back then. Here's some reality...if the NCState Legislators could figure out a way of shut down all state supported HBCU's without major riots and boycotts, they would shut them down tomorrow. And since they cannot just shut them down they have decided to "starve" them to death. Shrink their budgets, restrict their enrollment and eleminate programs. Those HBCU's that cannot adapt quickly will eventually be taken over. ECSU is a prime example...they are suffering and they don't have the leadership or resourses to turn it around so eventually the State will come in and "rescue" them out of existance.
The heading for this site should be..."State HBCU's still in danger of takeover."
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on May 14, 2014 23:16:55 GMT -5
I remember when the sky was falling around Greensboro after UNC-G Changed their colors from Green and Gold to Blue and Gold and yet we are still here...So I gotta see a "receipt" for this before i can react one way or another.
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Post by Trueaggie on May 15, 2014 6:22:22 GMT -5
Yeah; I really don't like that they changed there colors to ours.
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Post by @ProfBellamy on May 15, 2014 9:31:59 GMT -5
Man it's a slow news day when the rumor pops up...again. I came to A&T in 1965 and that rumor was being whispered way back then. Here's some reality...if the NCState Legislators could figure out a way of shut down all state supported HBCU's without major riots and boycotts, they would shut them down tomorrow. And since they cannot just shut them down they have decided to "starve" them to death. Shrink their budgets, restrict their enrollment and eleminate programs. Those HBCU's that cannot adapt quickly will eventually be taken over. ECSU is a prime example...they are suffering and they don't have the leadership or resourses to turn it around so eventually the State will come in and "rescue" them out of existance. The heading for this site should be..."State HBCU's still in danger of takeover." That would be a better title. The students are not looking at a holistic view of Preeminence 2020. They have latched on to the 30% non-black figure. The black and white view on diversity that many of our students fail to capture our Latino students who grow up very much in the same environments as our black students. The 30% includes our international students where the university is growing partnerships with countries within the African-diaspora, Latin America and China. I don't fear a merger, but I fear our students not understanding or appreciating our history. They don't get it but we need to teach it and the work to move forward. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 10:18:59 GMT -5
Man it's a slow news day when the rumor pops up...again. I came to A&T in 1965 and that rumor was being whispered way back then. Here's some reality...if the NCState Legislators could figure out a way of shut down all state supported HBCU's without major riots and boycotts, they would shut them down tomorrow. And since they cannot just shut them down they have decided to "starve" them to death. Shrink their budgets, restrict their enrollment and eleminate programs. Those HBCU's that cannot adapt quickly will eventually be taken over. ECSU is a prime example...they are suffering and they don't have the leadership or resourses to turn it around so eventually the State will come in and "rescue" them out of existance. The heading for this site should be..."State HBCU's still in danger of takeover." That would be a better title. The students are not looking at a holistic view of Preeminence 2020. They have latched on to the 30% non-black figure. The black and white view on diversity that many of our students fail to capture our Latino students who grow up very much in the same environments as our black students. The 30% includes our international students where the university is growing partnerships with countries within the African-diaspora, Latin America and China. I don't fear a merger, but I fear our students not understanding or appreciating our history. They don't get it but we need to teach it and the work to move forward. Yep. We need to do better job in selling this. Becoming more diverse is not losing our HBCU-ness. My grad school had a lot of kids from china and the Middle East at the school. It did not take away from the social aspect of the school. |
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Post by @ProfBellamy on May 15, 2014 13:31:41 GMT -5
That would be a better title. The students are not looking at a holistic view of Preeminence 2020. They have latched on to the 30% non-black figure. The black and white view on diversity that many of our students fail to capture our Latino students who grow up very much in the same environments as our black students. The 30% includes our international students where the university is growing partnerships with countries within the African-diaspora, Latin America and China. I don't fear a merger, but I fear our students not understanding or appreciating our history. They don't get it but we need to teach it and the work to move forward. Yep. We need to do better job in selling this. Becoming more diverse is not losing our HBCU-ness. My grad school had a lot of kids from china and the Middle East at the school. It did not take away from the social aspect of the school. Thank you AJ! We need to sell and engage in a proactive manner. Read P2020 and the status reports. I'll share all the links soon when I get back to my computer. We may not like all of P2020, but it's the plan to do the things to help us be proactive in heading off the poaching by the UNC system. It's important that we support the ability to grow research capabilities, improving the attractiveness for private funding through increased alumni giving rates. Further, we must engage potential students EARLY. Being a junior in high school is too late... www.ncat.edu/about/forms-pdf/strategicplan-preeminence2020.pdf |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 16:25:16 GMT -5
Yep. We need to do better job in selling this. Becoming more diverse is not losing our HBCU-ness. My grad school had a lot of kids from china and the Middle East at the school. It did not take away from the social aspect of the school. Thank you AJ! We need to sell and engage in a proactive manner. Read P2020 and the status reports. I'll share all the links soon when I get back to my computer. We may not like all of P2020, but it's the plan to do the things to help us be proactive in heading off the poaching by the UNC system. It's important that we support the ability to grow research capabilities, improving the attractiveness for private funding through increased alumni giving rates. Further, we must engage potential students EARLY. Being a junior in high school is too late... www.ncat.edu/about/forms-pdf/strategicplan-preeminence2020.pdfExactly man. We need to be as transparent as possible with the students about this. We need to also demonstrate to them that diversity in our HBCU culture is a great thing. For instance, East Asia loves many aspects of black culture and our blackness. What better chance is there for them to learn at a world class HBCU LIKE OURS. it also would not take away from available in-state enrollment, if done right. |
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Post by The Professor on Oct 26, 2023 13:27:36 GMT -5
Just checking in to see
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Post by saabman on Oct 26, 2023 15:06:30 GMT -5
The answer is NO NO AND HELL NO . There would be no benefit to A&T to merge with a liberal Arts institution that is having enrollment problems. Damn I would think that this Merger BS would not even be a conversation starter to be revisited 😂
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 26, 2023 15:17:52 GMT -5
I'm all for it... PROVIDED: The merged institution becomes The North Carolina Agricultural and Technical University, and we get all the associated benefits thereof. Basically as opposed to a merger I'm for us absorbing them completely and being the primary institution and lead on all things. Therefore we remain an hbcu and remain Ayantee.  |
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Post by saabman on Oct 26, 2023 15:27:59 GMT -5
Yep. We need to do better job in selling this. Becoming more diverse is not losing our HBCU-ness. My grad school had a lot of kids from china and the Middle East at the school. It did not take away from the social aspect of the school. Thank you AJ! We need to sell and engage in a proactive manner. Read P2020 and the status reports. I'll share all the links soon when I get back to my computer. We may not like all of P2020, but it's the plan to do the things to help us be proactive in heading off the poaching by the UNC system. It's important that we support the ability to grow research capabilities, improving the attractiveness for private funding through increased alumni giving rates. Further, we must engage potential students EARLY. Being a junior in high school is too late... www.ncat.edu/about/forms-pdf/strategicplan-preeminence2020.pdfThe enrolled student population at University of North Carolina at Greensboro is 44.1% White, 27.8% Black or African American, 12.5% Hispanic or Latino, 5.08% Asian, 4.75% Two or More Races, 0.331% American Indian or Alaska Native, and 0.084% Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islanders. This includes both full-time and part-time students as well as graduate and undergraduates. By comparison, enrollment for all Doctoral Universities is 48.9% White, 15.1% Hispanic or Latino, and 9.56% Black or African American The enrolled student population at North Carolina A & T State University is 80.1% Black or African American, 5.51% White, 4.15% Two or More Races, 4.08% Hispanic or Latino, 0.953% Asian, 0.338% American Indian or Alaska Native, and 0.015% Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islanders. This includes both full-time and part-time students as well as graduate and undergraduates. By comparison, enrollment for all Doctoral Universities is 48.9% White, 15.1% Hispanic or Latino, and 9.56% Black or African American. A&T is doing just fine in there out reach especially for a Agricultural and Technical Institution. |
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