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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Nov 26, 2013 21:44:41 GMT -5
How much money did we make for a Labor Day game this year......
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Post by aggieblackie on Nov 26, 2013 23:49:46 GMT -5
NSS we didn't make nuttin!! One of the solutions is to get WSSU back on the schedule and play them Labor Day weekend. That way we are almost assured a packed house. We need to do better promoting of the other games in the middle of the schedule. With a 12 game possibility next year what about moving the NCCU game back to Thanksgiving Day as it was for years in the past. They drew great crowds during those days on Thanksgiving.
With this type scheduling we start off with a bang and end with a bang.
Also, I didn't see anything wrong with the prices for the NCCU game. It was a dreary day with forecast for rain up to 40% and people still showed up. I don't see any problem with the 16,000 people showing up considering both teams records and the possibility of rain for that day. The attendance total was a pleasant surprise - considering.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 27, 2013 9:05:40 GMT -5
When people talk about moving games and playing on "this date or that date" I really dont think they think it through. The MEAC decides the conference schedule. The only reason we could play NCCU on Labor before was because we had the freedom too. They were not in the MEAC then. So all this talk of WE should play NCCU on a certain date is all futile. A&T has ZERO control of the game date. The MEAC has made the final week of the season rivalry week like every other conference on the planet.
We need to worry about non-conference foes and promotions. Thats it. I dont think we cant control the MEAC schedule. And dont forget to win along the way.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 27, 2013 9:33:50 GMT -5
i don’t think that’s totally true, maybe partially true though. but i don’t think it would present any problems with the meac office if both schools (a&t/nccu) mutually agreed to play every year on labor day weekend. it would have no impact on meac scheduling for any other meac schools because we’re partners with nccu in terms of permanently being on each other’s meac schedule and there are no other meac games scheduled for that weekend, so there would be no scheduling conflicts.
the meac permanently schedules famu and bcu for the fc every year at the same time, no reason they couldn’t schedule us and central for labor day weekend every year. if the 2 schools mutually agree, i don’t see any problems with the meac allowing it to happen...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 27, 2013 10:14:52 GMT -5
i don’t think that’s totally true, maybe partially true though. but i don’t think it would present any problems with the meac office if both schools (a&t/nccu) mutually agreed to play every year on labor day weekend. it would have no impact on meac scheduling for any other meac schools because we’re partners with nccu in terms of permanently being on each other’s meac schedule and there are no other meac games scheduled for that weekend, so there would be no scheduling conflicts. the meac permanently schedules famu and bcu for the fc every year at the same time, no reason they couldn’t schedule us and central for labor day weekend every year. if the 2 schools mutually agree, i don’t see any problems with the meac allowing it to happen... Maybe, but isn't the FC the last game of the year though?(rhetorical) Just like the Aggie/Eagle. When the game one day decides which team wins the MEAC it will be an epic Aggie/Eagle if it is at Aggie stadium.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 27, 2013 10:22:14 GMT -5
i don’t think that’s totally true, maybe partially true though. but i don’t think it would present any problems with the meac office if both schools (a&t/nccu) mutually agreed to play every year on labor day weekend. it would have no impact on meac scheduling for any other meac schools because we’re partners with nccu in terms of permanently being on each other’s meac schedule and there are no other meac games scheduled for that weekend, so there would be no scheduling conflicts. the meac permanently schedules famu and bcu for the fc every year at the same time, no reason they couldn’t schedule us and central for labor day weekend every year. if the 2 schools mutually agree, i don’t see any problems with the meac allowing it to happen... Maybe, but isn't the FC the last game of the year though?(rhetorical) Just like the Aggie/Eagle. yep. but that's where famu and bcu wants it scheduled cuz they have warm weather and mickeyland available year round to help their classic. however, the only scheduling conflict for labor day weekend that i can think of is the meac/swac challenge. but neither school (a&t/nccu) has to play in that game even though i believe i read somewhere that we're playing in that game next year. if famu/bcu wanted to play labor day weekend, then that would be a conflict because of the meac/swac challenge (played in the same venue as the fc). but famu/bcu like the fc where it already is...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 27, 2013 10:41:53 GMT -5
a lot of assuming there oleschool, but OK. You prefer a warm weather Aggie/Eagle.
I would prefer one also, but I get the attendance game that the conference, NCCU, and A&T are playing here. Not to mention we are only looking at it from the A&T standpoint. Look at it from NCCU's standpoint. As is....They get a payday by playing Duke and then get 7,000 in attendance for their first home game and then 12,000 fans in November for the Aggie/Eagle. With Homecoming, thats a pretty good year for the Eagles.
If they move the Aggie/Eagle they could possibly lose the Duke game, but also lose the 7,000 for another home game. That game's attendance would probably drop down to 3,000 or 4,000 if they dont have a good year. Doesn't make sense financially for them to move the game. There are 2 schools involved here, with a lot of money on the line. Not just A&T. I've seen the final game at NCCU when they are .500 or less. 3000 is being generous.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 27, 2013 10:58:58 GMT -5
When people talk about moving games and playing on "this date or that date" I really dont think they think it through. The MEAC decides the conference schedule. The only reason we could play NCCU on Labor before was because we had the freedom too. They were not in the MEAC then. So all this talk of WE should play NCCU on a certain date is all futile. A&T has ZERO control of the game date. The MEAC has made the final week of the season rivalry week like every other conference on the planet. We need to worry about non-conference foes and promotions. Thats it. I dont think we cant control the MEAC schedule. And dont forget to win along the way. Let's focus on the things that we can control..."promotions." We can fool around with some of our dates and opponents but the majority of our schedule is out of our control. The only thing that we have "full" control over is how we promote those games. And before I talk about how we promote our games let me admit that I don't live in Greensboro so I don't know what they are doing there. But as a casual observer, I don't see much in the way of creativity in promoting our games. Example...last week we honored the 2003 football team and our sponsors. Where's the promotion? What did anyone do to try to get folks from the community to that game? What did they do to get "border line" Aggie fans to come to that game? (oh by the way...those blow up toys out front of the stadium are a waste of good parking space. People aren't bringing their kids or grand kids to A&T's games to play on blow up toys.) The fact that we got 16,000 folks to come out on a cold overcast day to watch two mediocre teams play says more about "tradition" than any marketing effort to promote the game. If we are going to charge folks a premium to see our games we are going to have to "sell" them on coming.
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Post by AggiePride on Nov 27, 2013 11:14:28 GMT -5
I also think it was too close to homecoming.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 27, 2013 11:23:04 GMT -5
monster, i'm really not concerned with nccu's affairs. they could probably make more "ching, ching" playing another fbs school because i doubt seriously that duke is paying a ton of money like clemson and the larger fbs programs do. but that's on them, doesn't really concern me at all.
i'm just stating my preferences, i'll leave the logistics up to the schools. there's never any "buzz" anymore for the aggie/eagle when its played in the cold in november. and last year was worse than this year, i literally almost froze to death in durham last year mainly because they didn't start the game until 4pm after the sun went down. season ending rivalry games have less meaning when both teams are out of contention for a championship like ours have been. people don't stick around campus after the game because its too cold to stand around outside. i just think the festive atmosphere of the rivalry is lost at the end of the season and a lot of folks go to the game just for the festive atmosphere. when we played labor day weekend, pregame tailgating was literally as big of an event as the game was.
but hey, its not that important to me. i just hate to see our rivalry dwindle essentially to become just a normal game. we had just as many folk at aggie stadium on a thursday night against howard this year...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 27, 2013 11:52:22 GMT -5
monster, i'm really not concerned with nccu's affairs. they could probably make more "ching, ching" playing another fbs school because i doubt seriously that duke is paying a ton of money like clemson and the larger fbs programs do. but that's on them, doesn't really concern me at. Thats makes no sense. You have to consider NCCU, Its their game also. We just cant bully the MEAC into moving the game without them agreeing as well. But like you said, your stating preferences so yeah, screw what they think.
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Post by DECKS on Nov 27, 2013 12:39:13 GMT -5
When people talk about moving games and playing on "this date or that date" I really dont think they think it through. The MEAC decides the conference schedule. The only reason we could play NCCU on Labor before was because we had the freedom too. They were not in the MEAC then. So all this talk of WE should play NCCU on a certain date is all futile. A&T has ZERO control of the game date. The MEAC has made the final week of the season rivalry week like every other conference on the planet. We need to worry about non-conference foes and promotions. Thats it. I dont think we cant control the MEAC schedule. And dont forget to win along the way. Let's focus on the things that we can control..."promotions." We can fool around with some of our dates and opponents but the majority of our schedule is out of our control. The only thing that we have "full" control over is how we promote those games. And before I talk about how we promote our games let me admit that I don't live in Greensboro so I don't know what they are doing there. But as a casual observer, I don't see much in the way of creativity in promoting our games. Example...last week we honored the 2003 football team and our sponsors. Where's the promotion? What did anyone do to try to get folks from the community to that game? What did they do to get "border line" Aggie fans to come to that game? (oh by the way...those blow up toys out front of the stadium are a waste of good parking space. People aren't bringing their kids or grand kids to A&T's games to play on blow up toys.) The fact that we got 16,000 folks to come out on a cold overcast day to watch two mediocre teams play says more about "tradition" than any marketing effort to promote the game. If we are going to charge folks a premium to see our games we are going to have to "sell" them on coming. To what level of promoting this event are you suggesting? Remember, that takes money as well. I'm sure there's a budget that can't be exceeded. I've seen many an event promoted heavily only to realize minimal gain. I remember all the promotions for the last Aggie-Eagle Classic in Raleigh only to have 24k in attendance. The A&T vs NCCU game in Charlotte a few years ago was promoted heavily only to get around 16k in attendance. Remember, we don't need sellouts to maximize revenue.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 27, 2013 13:10:43 GMT -5
I just think the days of 30K in attendance at an Aggie/Eagle game are over. The only reason we got those 30K games is because we hadn't played each other in a while before starting the rivalry back up. Now that they are in the conference it's not a novelty game anymore. Now I think the crowd will be only as good as both the teams.
As far as promoting, we just have to decide how much money to spend on a game by game basis. I personally believe that money and most of your efforts should be focused on keeping and growing the season ticket holders. Cant beat money up front.
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Post by DECKS on Nov 27, 2013 13:44:22 GMT -5
I just think the days of 30K in attendance at an Aggie/Eagle game are over. The only reason we got those 30K games is because we hadn't played each other in a while before starting the rivalry back up. Now that they are in the conference it's not a novelty game anymore. Now I think the crowd will be only as good as both the teams. As far as promoting, we just have to decide how much money to spend on a game by game basis. I personally believe that money and most of your efforts should be focused on keeping and growing the season ticket holders. Cant beat money up front. I agree. Unless we're competing for a conference championship or playoff berth we can forget the huge A/E crowds. We'll just have to make up that difference with alternative delivery systems. We forget that fans no longer have to come to Aggie Stadium to view our games.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 27, 2013 14:29:57 GMT -5
Decks just brought up a great point...seacon ticket sales. I used to buy two season books just to gives to relatives but when the price jumped so high I quit that practice. Maybe if we gave a big discount on season books purchased before August 1 we might sell more.
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