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Post by numberonebrave on Jun 12, 2023 18:59:33 GMT -5
Thanks Maxwell ... Hicks can be a difference maker in track .... And maybe football ... .. But probably not both
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Jun 12, 2023 19:12:54 GMT -5
Thanks Maxwell ... Hicks can be a difference maker in track .... And maybe football ... .. But probably not both Why not.
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Post by saabman on Jun 12, 2023 19:59:10 GMT -5
Thanks Maxwell ... Hicks can be a difference maker in track .... And maybe football ... .. But probably not both Why not ,there been numerous players that have done it . Football is team/unit orientated, where as Track & Field is more individual focused with the exception being team points by individuals and relay points. Baring injury overlap, the athlete should be able to excel at both. Skill position athletes, in my opinion benefit far more from having ran track then those that don't that's a proven fact .
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Post by A&T-roy on Jun 13, 2023 12:09:38 GMT -5
Thanks Maxwell ... Hicks can be a difference maker in track .... And maybe football ... .. But probably not both Why not ,there been numerous players that have done it . Football is team/unit orientated, where as Track & Field is more individual focused with the exception being team points by individuals and relay points. Baring injury overlap, the athlete should be able to excel at both. Skill position athletes, in my opinion benefit far more from having ran track then those that don't that's a proven fact . The issue I see is the amount of focus he'll be able to apply to the different sports compared to athletes that just do one. That's even more important at the college level, where most kids only focus on one sport and it's a year round thing...or seems to be.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 14, 2023 20:55:09 GMT -5
Why not ,there been numerous players that have done it . Football is team/unit orientated, where as Track & Field is more individual focused with the exception being team points by individuals and relay points. Baring injury overlap, the athlete should be able to excel at both. Skill position athletes, in my opinion benefit far more from having ran track then those that don't that's a proven fact . The issue I see is the amount of focus he'll be able to apply to the different sports compared to athletes that just do one. That's even more important at the college level, where most kids only focus on one sport and it's a year round thing...or seems to be. my "assumption" is that he'll likely be a full time football player except i expect him to skip "spring practice" in order to concentrate on outdoor track. i do not feel that football will detract from his ability to excel at track "unless" he experiences lagging long term injuries resulting from football. otherwise, i do not feel that you must run track "year round" in order to excel in the 400m. conditioning wise, football will keep hicks in good physical condition overall. its a "different" conditioning in football, but its conditioning nonetheless. its not like he'll just be sitting on his azz couch surfing doing nothing at all during football season. it'll take him less time to get into "track shape" after playing football than starting from ground zero. to me, few sports require "year round" concentration of that sport in order to excel. albeit, "basketball" ain't one of them cuz "consistency" is very important relative to shooting "accuracy" in basketball...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 4, 2023 6:47:03 GMT -5
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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 4, 2023 7:38:23 GMT -5
Thanks Maxwell ... Hicks can be a difference maker in track .... And maybe football ... .. But probably not both Why not ,there been numerous players that have done it . Football is team/unit orientated, where as Track & Field is more individual focused with the exception being team points by individuals and relay points. Baring injury overlap, the athlete should be able to excel at both. Skill position athletes, in my opinion benefit far more from having ran track then those that don't that's a proven fact . Hicks is really a 400 runner. You cant be great at that and play football(in college). I would agree with you if he was a 100/200 guy.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 4, 2023 12:20:41 GMT -5
Why not ,there been numerous players that have done it . Football is team/unit orientated, where as Track & Field is more individual focused with the exception being team points by individuals and relay points. Baring injury overlap, the athlete should be able to excel at both. Skill position athletes, in my opinion benefit far more from having ran track then those that don't that's a proven fact . Hicks is really a 400 runner. You cant be great at that and play football(in college). I would agree with you if he was a 100/200 guy. if he did it in high school why can't he do it in college? assuming he won't participate in spring practice... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards
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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 4, 2023 14:30:51 GMT -5
Hicks is really a 400 runner. You cant be great at that and play football(in college). I would agree with you if he was a 100/200 guy. if he did it in high school why can't he do it in college? assuming he won't participate in spring practice... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards Being a sucessful high school 400 runner is way different than being a successful college 400 runner. You know this. I dont know any football players that have successfully competed in the 400, meaning making it to regionals and not finishing dead last when you get there. No way he is NOT participating in Spring practice either or football weight lifting times. That would kill any serious 400 training he was attempting to do.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 4, 2023 14:54:17 GMT -5
if he did it in high school why can't he do it in college? assuming he won't participate in spring practice... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards Being a sucessful high school 400 runner is way different than being a successful college 400 runner. You know this. I dont know any football players that have successfully competed in the 400, meaning making it to regionals and not finishing dead last when you get there. No way he is NOT participating in Spring practice either or football weight lifting times. That would kill any serious 400 training he was attempting to do. understood. but i don't agree that you must run track "year round" in order to succeed in the 400. a track athlete does not need a "full year" to prepare for running the 400. granted, the 400 is probably the most "difficult" sprint to run, i get that. but i still don't think a track athlete needs a "full year" in order to be competitive in the 400. clearly hicks did not run "indoor track" while in high school and that didn't hurt his outdoor track performance. and i disagree that the coaches will "force" him to participate in spring ball cuz apparently hicks made it very clear during his recruitment that he wanted to do both. well, i honestly don't see how he can do "both" if he is forced to practice football in the spring. i mean, its not unheard of for aggie football players to play multiple sports and do well in "both". remember denzel keyes? he played both football and basketball and did well in "both" sports. its "likely" that keyes missed time in spring practice since basketball season ends in march. then there was cohen and desmond lawrence, both of them ran track even though they were on the football team and i doubt that either of them participated in spring ball on a full time basis. i mean, if they can train for the 100 and 200 as football players and be successful at it, then why can't the same be done in the 400? definitely not encouraging hicks to do so, but if i were hicks and i made it clear during my recruitment that i wanted to play both sports, i'd look to transfer if they prohibit me from participating in track during the spring and instead "force" me to participate in spring ball. if they "force" him to participate in spring ball, then i would agree that spring ball would very "negatively" impact his ability to successfully run the 400. but i think the coaches will give him a pass on spring ball...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 4, 2023 15:14:50 GMT -5
Being a sucessful high school 400 runner is way different than being a successful college 400 runner. You know this. I dont know any football players that have successfully competed in the 400, meaning making it to regionals and not finishing dead last when you get there. No way he is NOT participating in Spring practice either or football weight lifting times. That would kill any serious 400 training he was attempting to do. understood. but i don't agree that you must run track "year round" in order to succeed in the 400. a track athlete does not need a "full year" to prepare for running the 400. granted, the 400 is probably the most "difficult" sprint to run, i get that. but i still don't think a track athlete needs a "full year" in order to be competitive in the 400. clearly hicks did not run "indoor track" while in high school and that didn't hurt his outdoor track performance. and i disagree that the coaches will "force" him to participate in spring ball cuz apparently hicks made it very clear during his recruitment that he wanted to do both. well, i honestly don't see how he can do "both" if he is forced to practice football in the spring. i mean, its not unheard of for aggie football players to play multiple sports and do well in "both". remember denzel keyes? he played both football and basketball and did well in "both" sports. its "likely" that keyes missed time in spring practice since basketball season ends in march. then there was cohen and desmond lawrence, both of them ran track even though they were on the football team and i doubt that either of them participated in spring ball on a full time basis. i mean, if they can train for the 100 and 200 as football players and be successful at it, then why can't the same be done in the 400? definitely not encouraging hicks to do so, but if i were hicks and i made it clear during my recruitment that i wanted to play both sports, i'd look to transfer if they prohibit me from participating in track during the spring and instead "force" me to participate in spring ball. if they "force" him to participate in spring ball, then i would agree that spring ball would very "negatively" impact his ability to successfully run the 400. but i think the coaches will give him a pass on spring ball... You way overthinking this. I never said year round. But anyways. I would think his participation in track would depend on how well track actually goes.
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Post by saabman on Aug 4, 2023 15:15:15 GMT -5
Why not ,there been numerous players that have done it . Football is team/unit orientated, where as Track & Field is more individual focused with the exception being team points by individuals and relay points. Baring injury overlap, the athlete should be able to excel at both. Skill position athletes, in my opinion benefit far more from having ran track then those that don't that's a proven fact . Hicks is really a 400 runner. You cant be great at that and play football(in college). I would agree with you if he was a 100/200 guy. It depends on the position that he plays in Football. I would agree with you if he was playing at the RB position because of be continual impact to the legs. But if he's at receiver or safety he shouldn't have that much of a problem doing both. The only 400 Runner I know that played in the NFL and was an Olympian bronze medalist with the 46.5 was Ollie Matson . Personally I think Hicks will do just fine as long as he doesn't play the RB position or has some unforeseen injury.
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Aug 4, 2023 16:46:21 GMT -5
Hicks is really a 400 runner. You cant be great at that and play football(in college). I would agree with you if he was a 100/200 guy. It depends on the position that he plays in Football. I would agree with you if he was playing at the RB position because of be continual impact to the legs. But if he's at receiver or safety he shouldn't have that much of a problem doing both. The only 400 Runner I know that played in the NFL and was an Olympian bronze medalist with the 46.5 was Ollie Matson . Personally I think Hicks will do just fine as long as he doesn't play the RB position or has some unforeseen injury. A few NFL players that ran the 400m: Santonio Holmes (WR) Antonio Cromartie (CB) Bennie Blades (CB/S) Nolan Cromwell (S) Statistics show that it a far less popular event amongst football players, but all the noteworthy NFL greats that did run it were WRs or DBs
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Post by Aggie Monster on Aug 7, 2023 7:32:18 GMT -5
Yall always love to bring up exceptions when someone talking in general, LOL
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Aug 7, 2023 9:15:08 GMT -5
Yall always love to bring up exceptions when someone talking in general, LOL Now that I’m reading back, I realize that I forgot to explain why I posted that, and it seems like you’re reading it like a argument to your statement because of my lack of explaining, which it wasn’t, so that’s my fault. I saw y’all talking about who’s ran that event specifically, and it made me curious to see who’s ran what in terms of NFL guys. So once I saw that the point was that most fb players that run the 400 aren’t RBs, the research substantiated that (hence the very few ppl that even ran it in football being all WRs/DBs). Wasn’t supposed to be a “challenge” to anybody’s point, or “posting exceptions”, it was supposed to show very few NFL guys have ran, that’s almost the whole list of guys that actually have a name in the NFL that ran it, which is a short list. I just saw the back & forth & decided to look it up, especially bc I’ve never ran track in my own life
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