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Post by saabman on Mar 9, 2012 16:07:14 GMT -5
This is what I see the MEAC tries to play more so to the Northern teams and has forgot about it's Southern beginnings and Roots as is the CIAA. A&T may have the biggest Fan Base of all the MEAC schools with most of it in NC why not move it back to NC. Has anyone put to mind that the Fort Bragge and the city area is and untapped Market/Venue area. Also lets be honest MEAC BBall is BORING as (H) with only a few teams that really run and push the ball. People don't like boring games of BBall ,and as long as the MEAC coaches play boring BBall the Tournament is going to go down hill, Even with A&T"S help. You don't have to look at the CIAA COORDINATORS to see why they get fans,YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WAY THEY PLAY THE GAME WIDE OPEN> PEOPLE LIKE TO SEE THAT RUN AND GUN WIN ARE LOOSE IT'S FUN BBALL!
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Post by aggie2ru on Mar 9, 2012 17:00:56 GMT -5
We have to play to the desires of black folk to make it blow up pure and simple. The quality of ball in the MEAC is very boring and lacks exciting players and teams.
To compensate the MEAC needs to make it a party atmosphere and hope that it contributes to butts in the seats. Events surrounding the tourneyment will be a magnet that will draw some to the games who would not ordinarily attend.
I go to the CIAA tourneyment errrrrr year because I like to party and I like having a wide choice of things to do. Some times I go to a few games some years I don't. But by the CIAA having a festive atmosphere it allows me the opportunity to go to games by being there, if I want to.
The brand of ball in the MEAC is extrmely unexcitable and there is definitely NUTHIN to do outside of going to the games. Our tourneyment needs to be promoted as an event because the quality of play is not enough.
It is nothing difficult to understand about this situation. I just said it!
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Post by aggie2ru on Mar 9, 2012 17:04:36 GMT -5
Oh yeah, forgot to add the tourney is almost as boring as Jerry "Mr. less than .500 in MEAC" Eaves.
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Post by Aggie77 on Mar 9, 2012 17:26:23 GMT -5
This is what I see the MEAC tries to play more so to the Northern teams and has forgot about it's Southern beginnings and Roots as is the CIAA. A&T may have the biggest Fan Base of all the MEAC schools with most of it in NC why not move it back to NC. Has anyone put to mind that the Fort Bragge and the city area is and untapped Market/Venue area. Also lets be honest MEAC BBall is BORING as (H) with only a few teams that really run and push the ball. People don't like boring games of BBall ,and as long as the MEAC coaches play boring BBall the Tournament is going to go down hill, Even with A&T"S help. You don't have to look at the CIAA COORDINATORS to see why they get fans,YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WAY THEY PLAY THE GAME WIDE OPEN> PEOPLE LIKE TO SEE THAT RUN AND GUN WIN ARE LOOSE IT'S FUN BBALL! You obviously didn't see the CIAA. This ain't your father's CIAA. Most of the scores were in the 50s and 60s. Is that what you call wide open? The WSSU/Shaw game (two of the top teams) was as bad as the A&T/Howard game (two of the worst teams). Last night's MEAC quarters were better than any CIAA game I saw. The CIAA is a destination event and has very little to do with the basketball in the arena. Unfortunately, the CIAA doesn't profit directly from the many, many, many events that surround the games. How many really think the CIAA got a cut of the Ice-T & Coco party? mingleloop.com/event/details/1560_ice_t_a_coco_ciaa_party__mezThe CIAA is a completely different animal, in a class by itself. Think about it, $45 million last year, a reported $60 million in economic impact this year for one week, and most people don't get there until Thursday. There may be other conference that have higher ticket revenue, but the CIAA is #1 in economic impact. To give you perceptive: "Greensboro’s reputation as Tournament Town continues to gain momentum as the city hosted the men’s and women’s ACC basketball tournaments again in 2011. The combined economic impact on the city was estimated at $18 million. The 58th Annual ACC tournament for women’s basketball took place March 3-6, while the men’s basketball took place March 10-13." www.greensboroeda.com/pdfs/ACCMensBasketball.pdf
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Post by DECKS on Mar 9, 2012 17:42:28 GMT -5
A77 you're on point. The CIAA is no longer about basketball. We had 200,000 visitors here in Charlotte and I'll be 70% of em can't name one team in the conference.
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Post by aggie2ru on Mar 9, 2012 18:08:40 GMT -5
I agree with both of you 100% but if a small percentage of the party animals attend games that is a plus. Additionally, because of it's reputation alone as being a "place" to be... it does not hurt attendance it increases it.
Simply put, if there are 100,000 people in town to get their party on........if 10% of these party people come to the games (for whatever reason)....that is an increase of 10,000 that sit their butts down for the games.
I do realize that the CIAA itself does not profit directly from "outside" events (parties and concerts) but it certainly is not boring.
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Post by saabman on Mar 9, 2012 18:10:40 GMT -5
Oh yeah, forgot to add the tourney is almost as boring as Jerry "Mr. less than .500 in MEAC" Eaves. OH THE MONEY
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Post by saabman on Mar 9, 2012 18:38:14 GMT -5
ggie77: NO NOTHING IS THE SAME AND I THANK YOU FOR ATHINKING THAT I WAS A YOUNG BUCK...LOL But I saw the old CIAA (Skipped school and all) But what I'm saying is this MOST PEOPLE DO NOT COME TO THE CIAA/MEAC/SWAC FOR THE GAMES!!! ONLY THE BBALL JUNKIES/FAMILIES AND WOMAN/MEN THAT WANT TO BE SEEN IN THERE BEST GO TO THE GAMES. IT'S NOT LIKE THE OLD DAYS. BUT EVEN THEN IT WAS THE PLACE TO BE. "The CIAA is a completely different animal, in a class by itself. Think about it, $45 million last year, a reported $60 million in economic impact this year for one week, and most people don't get there until Thursday. There may be other conference that have higher ticket revenue, but the CIAA is #1 in economic impact" THE MEAC AS TO FIND AWAY TO MAKE IT'S SELF INTO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL! UNTIL THE MEAC CAN FIND AWAY TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF IMPACT WE ARE JUST GOING TO BE MOVING FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER. THE MEAC JUST NEEDS TO STOP MOVING AND PUT ROOTS DOWN IN A COMMUNITY AND THEN YOU WILL SEE THE CHICKENS COMING HOME TO ROOST ;D
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Post by marchingband1969 on Mar 9, 2012 18:54:56 GMT -5
Let me start off by saying it will take a lot to "fix" MEAC basketball. It has been broken a long time and it will take a long time to fix it. It has to start with every school doing a better job hiring coaches and recruiting talent. The MEAC has an inferior basketball product and you will not get fans interested in seeing the games until it drastically improves. As for the MEAC Tournament, the league will have to do something dramatic to get people to the game...two for one season books, discounted hotel rooms with season books, free after-game party with season books, free raffle for a tropical cruise with season book. In other words, we are going to have to "buy" fans for a few years. Once they show up and enjoy themselves then maybe we can create the buzz needed to get others to show up.
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Post by aggie2ru on Mar 9, 2012 19:41:48 GMT -5
It's gonna take the skills of some REAL hustlers to get people really interested in MEAC ball.
Some very inventive ideas have to be used. I like what marchingband said. It can be done but the MEAC can't keep doing it the same ole way. (Sound familiar? Eaves??)
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Post by Aggie E on Mar 9, 2012 20:22:56 GMT -5
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Post by saabman on Mar 9, 2012 20:38:40 GMT -5
NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT I HOPE THAT THIS WORKS.
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Post by aggie1 on Mar 9, 2012 21:02:16 GMT -5
I thought the topic was about getting rid of the Mo Fo. But since we are talking about attendance and the differences between the CIAA & MEAC Tournament that is fine.
I started going to the CIAA back in the early 60's when I was in high school. The attendance was great then and it is even greater now. The CIAA operates on tradition and the people who attend it know that. They know it is going to be a party and also decent games. They have good promoters in the CIAA and they know how to market it. Do you think Michelle Obama would take time out to visit the almost empty arena of the MEAC? Hell No!!
The MEAC has very poor marketing skills. They don't advertise worth anything before the tournament occurs and they have poor marketing skills during the tournament. Just look at the entertainment that they have for half time and different breaks. Last year they had people playing "musical chairs". This year they had people throwing paper air planes for distance.
What is wrong with this picture. The MEAC is to cheap to hire quality performers for half time and breaks. The CIAA have quality entertainers at half time ... ex: The Bucket Boys. Even A&T had them at one of their games at half time along with other quality performers throughout the season. If we can afford them I know darn well the MEAC should be able to afford them for the tournament.
A&T should never be put in a position to draw the crowd even though they are. But you would not know it for the way the refs. cheat on them. However, overall it is just poor planning and marketing by the brass of the MEAC Tournament. They need to put some fresh minds in charge to market this tournament to make it successful.
The MEAC is just boring all the way around and Winston Salem was even more boring. I hope Norfolk will be better but I really doubt it unless we get some different people to market it.
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Post by Aggie E on Mar 9, 2012 21:42:06 GMT -5
The MEAC is just boring all the way around and Winston Salem was even more boring. I hope Norfolk will be better but I really doubt it unless we get some different people to market it. I agree totally. The key to this thing is promoting the events. I'm not privy to the details of the deal, but I'm sure that the MEAC is getting a sweetheart deal, especially for The Scope. That should leave more funds for marketing and promotion. We'll just have to see.
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Post by saabman on Mar 9, 2012 21:49:43 GMT -5
That's what I was saying when I made the statement that the MEAC should go back to their ROOTS and Market the Conference as a party with excellent BBall. I still think that it was a bad move by the MEAC to have pulled out of GREENSBORO and let the ACC get a foothold in GREENSBORO. GREENSBORO was a CIAA city at one time and I think that the MEAC Heads didn't like people that were raised on the CIAA> Party and a Game and Party some more, state of mind THEY JUST COULD NOT HANDLE IT. Greensboro is Centrally Location for all of the MEAC schools both North and South It was just a bad move on the MEAC's part to give up on the Greensboro Market A BAD MOVE!! But it's what it is!! I hope they pull in off in Va.
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