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Post by aggierattler on Feb 9, 2012 14:19:32 GMT -5
that's not why we stop playing nccu when they were d2. we stopped playing central because we weren't getting paid what was promised to us by the middle man. and we still haven't been paid what's been due to us. it wasn't because we had loss a game to central. c'mon, folks. that's a line that the central folk put out there and to my surprise, some of our own folk are buying into it. we ended the aggie-eagle classic at carter finley stadium because we weren't getting "paid". we resumed the series on a home-n-home basis once central petitioned to transition to d1 because we cut out the middle man and controlled our own money... That's my understanding of it, too. Attachments:
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Post by ohsixrain on Feb 9, 2012 14:23:02 GMT -5
So I was given some old records.. main ingredients, staples singers, red foxx live, nat king cole... so i bought me a player and had a great time listening got into my groove, when my iPhone notified me i had a text and it read " Man I just saw online where SCSU is playing Texas A&M" So I quickly opened up my Macbook to verify this info and indeed I saw on their schedule not only Texas A&M but Georgia State and Arizona. I quickly jumped up and realized I was late for work listening to all those old records. Jumped in my car and downloaded all those records from itunes in a matter of seconds and started my commute to work. So I say that to say lets not get caught up in nostalgia and forget about recruiting. Some of these kids don't know how Hype a A&T vs. WSSU or NCCU game is and you can't sale that to them on a visit. But to tell them we play Tx. A&M, Arizona this year and the scouts will be there so thats your chance to been seen my pro scouts. "Makes you wonder how the kid from SC got away" NCCU plays Duke FAMU play S Fla BCCU plays mia....
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Post by ohsixrain on Feb 9, 2012 14:31:07 GMT -5
Obviously, I didn't pull in the quote by neon correctly...I hear what you are saying but, we can only play with the hand that we have right now. Right now...we don't have any spades when it comes to playing a Div I-A opponent, that's it...period! But, that doesn't mean we don't have any books...we still might have 3 and a possible...we have the opportunity to schedule a money game by playing down a division and from a competitive standpoint still be playing among our peers. Right now...that's not bad! All is not lost. Also, when you are selling a recruit on your program...I don't think the fact that you have a Miami or a Texas A&M on schedule is going to convince them to come, when they know you are going to get embarrassed in front of those pro scouts you mention. In my opinion, what would sell a recruit is the belief that your program has a legit shot to win the conference championship and advance to the playoffs. As we sit right now...A&T has a reasonable shot at a conference championship next season.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Feb 9, 2012 14:33:20 GMT -5
that's not why we stop playing nccu when they were d2. we stopped playing central because we weren't getting paid what was promised to us by the middle man. and we still haven't been paid what's been due to us. it wasn't because we had loss a game to central. c'mon, folks. that's a line that the central folk put out there and to my surprise, some of our own folk are buying into it. we ended the aggie-eagle classic at carter finley stadium because we weren't getting "paid". we resumed the series on a home-n-home basis once central petitioned to transition to d1 because we cut out the middle man and controlled our own money... Thats my point. Why would we treat WSSU different than NCCU? We kept playing them cause the game was profitable and we both made money even though they were Div2. We only stopped the first time because of what happened with the 3rd party promoter and we didn't get paid. Yall do realize when we resumed playing them after Carter Finley they were still Div2 right? Didn't we even do a home and home with them(Charlotte being their home) while they were still Div2? I just hope its not us being unreasonable is all I'm saying.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Feb 9, 2012 14:41:14 GMT -5
I don't think the fact that you have a Miami or a Texas A&M on schedule is going to convince them to come, when they know you are going to get embarrassed in front of those pro scouts you mention. In my opinion, what would sell a recruit is the belief that your program has a legit shot to win the conference championship and advance to the playoffs. As we sit right now...A&T has a reasonable shot at a conference championship next season. I speak to recruits all the time and that's it. "Can/Will we win the majority of our games and compete for the conference title at least a few times before I graduate?" They are not in the ACC or any other FBS school, so just because you play one isn't really a huge draw. Most FCS school dont even know their non-conference schedule before a recruit commits. Some do, but most dont.
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Post by DECKS on Feb 9, 2012 14:43:29 GMT -5
True, but everyone was in agreement to resume the series including Small and Todd. It was their decision to make. I'd like to play WSSU but if Hilton and Broadway aren't so inclined then I'm ok with the decision as long as we have another option on making up the revenue. Besides our football rivalry with WSSU isn't as lengthy as our rivalry with NCCU.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Feb 9, 2012 14:48:02 GMT -5
True, but everyone was in agreement to resume the series including Small and Todd. It was their decision to make. I'd like to play WSSU but if Hilton and Broadway aren't so inclined then I'm ok with the decision as long as we have another option on making up the revenue. Besides our football rivalry with WSSU isn't as lengthy as our rivalry with NCCU. But thats what everyone is saying. Most of us are saying the same thing. "If you can find a suitable replacement financially then forget WSSU, but since we cant play a FBS school then there is no legit reason not to play them for the next 2 years". That's what ohsixrain has been yelling the whole time, LOL. This year we really dont have a choice. We cant schedule a money game and any other div2 school would be just throwing away money. Do what you can with what you have in front of you and worry about dropping WSSU next year when we can get a money game. We happen THREE non-conference dates for petes sake. People act like we only have 1 or 2. And Decks, you bring up lengthy rivalry, but when you bring that up about WSSU people say "your thinking with your heart, not your pocketbook". What?!! WSSU is both and no one said that when we continued to play NCCU.
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Feb 9, 2012 15:00:14 GMT -5
that's not why we stop playing nccu when they were d2. we stopped playing central because we weren't getting paid what was promised to us by the middle man. and we still haven't been paid what's been due to us. it wasn't because we had loss a game to central. c'mon, folks. that's a line that the central folk put out there and to my surprise, some of our own folk are buying into it. we ended the aggie-eagle classic at carter finley stadium because we weren't getting "paid". we resumed the series on a home-n-home basis once central petitioned to transition to d1 because we cut out the middle man and controlled our own money... That's my understanding of it, too. You are pretty much correct. If I'm not mistaken, once the fiasco at Carter-Finley ended, we didn't get paid, thats why there was no more Aggie-Eagle Classic at State. Quiet as is kept, Bill Hayes complained his last couple of years as coach here about not wanting to play Central. When the game was in Charlotte, it was pretty much our home game or Centrals home game with only the home team getting paid.
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Feb 9, 2012 15:02:46 GMT -5
WSSU was offered 50,000 to play every year at Aggie Stadium and turned it down.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Feb 9, 2012 15:22:03 GMT -5
WSSU was offered 50,000 to play every year at Aggie Stadium and turned it down. Wow, then its on them. If we are offering that much then we cant do much more. My bottom line was $60,000, so they would have probably turned my measly extra $10,000 down also. Wow WSSU! That does it for me, forget em. 4XL were they wanting home and home or were they just wanting more money?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 9, 2012 15:42:17 GMT -5
i really don't like opening the season on the road at coastal. in recent years, we usually open our season at home or play at wssu or central at carter finley. i wonder who's idea it was to open our season against coastal? i'm okay with playing coastal, but i don't like the idea of opening the season against them, neither at home nor on the road...
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Post by ohsixrain on Feb 9, 2012 15:42:35 GMT -5
I with you too Monster...if you are too good to come 20 minutes down the road and play a rival school for $50 G's then to Hell with them. What do they think this is...Alabama? Man...please!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 9, 2012 15:50:06 GMT -5
wow! so there ya have it! 4xl should know. so the next time someone says we ain't playing winston because we're scared (which i personally never believed), you can give them the real reason...
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Post by The Professor on Feb 9, 2012 15:53:09 GMT -5
Thank you for telling these folks the real deal 4xl .......
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Feb 9, 2012 15:53:39 GMT -5
They wanted a home and home. Probably would have taken more money, but was adamant about a home and home. We paid JCSU 15,000.
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