oleschoolaggie
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 29, 2010 11:12:33 GMT -5
Oldschool, Depending upon your reasoning for your opinion, I have to disagree. i have no statistics to support my belief. but by far, i'm aware of more prominent attorneys/judges, civil rights leaders, doctors, musicians, actors, and actresses who are howard alums than any other hbcu. howard has a medical school (including its own hospital), a law school, and an engineering school. very few, if any other, hbcu's can claim to have all 3 of those schools. and the number of prominent graduates from howard is essentially limitless and that's not even including athletes. no other hbcu comes "remotely" close to howard in that regard. yeah, i know howard is one of our rivals, but i give credit where credit is due. i don't see how anyone could disagree that howard is tops. why do you disagree?
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Post by captaggie on Jun 29, 2010 11:35:34 GMT -5
No discredit to Howard, but if we (or any other HBCU) was getting approx. $200+ million / yr from the federal govt, I expect its accomplishments to surpass other HBCUs.
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Post by DOOMS on Jun 29, 2010 11:42:33 GMT -5
I'm an alum of Howard, and I wouldn't put the undergrad far past Ayantee. But every facet of their grad school is for real.
Undergrad, I'd go with Morehouse. But generally speaking, the harder your school is to get into, the better it's going to be academically. Howard's undergrad ain't that much harder to get into than Ayantee is (for out-of-state students).
Does FAMU still have the most National Merit Scholars? When I was in high school FAMU was well known for aggressively recruiting any Black National Merit Scholar they could. All the ones from my high school went there. That being said, state schools just aren't going to stack up to the privates. Privates can be selective, state schools generally have to take in-state students.
Judging from the products of various institutions I've met over the years, I've been most impressed with folks from Morehouse and Howard.
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Post by AggiePride on Jun 29, 2010 12:42:12 GMT -5
I think Spelman may have surpassed Morehouse.
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Post by aggiebred09 on Jul 6, 2010 13:39:49 GMT -5
Interesting dialogue...
For those that dont believe in a "Black Ivy League" its almost going as far to say you dont believe in Black Schools. The Ivy League represents the best traditional white colleges and probably will never look to a Black School to bestow such. Rightly so our people have once again shown our ability to work around this disparity by formulating our own list of Ivy Leagues that represent, in my opinion, the best HBCUs we have to offer, based on scholastic and social prestige. They are like the quintessential "Traditional HBCUs"
Its fine to be regarded in that category, but as previously stated. MIT holds just as much acclaim and prestige as a Brown or Yale. NC A&T should be ranked as an MIT among HBCUs. As a matter of fact, an education from A&T ranks alot higher than many white schools in and out of state.
When white doors were closed we opened our own. When white Ivy's wont recognize the reputation of our network of colleges, we create our own grading scale. Never limiting ourselves because of other impressions. Dont downplay the "BIL". They hold respect in their distinction and for the most part in degree.
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Post by ATLaggie on Jul 10, 2010 17:45:43 GMT -5
The term "Black Ivy League" was first created in a time where the majority of blacks were locked out of the Ivy League opportunity. Nowadays blacks are afforded those same opportunities as whites, IF THEIR GRADES ARE UP TO THE IVY LEAGUE STANDARD. To have to call a great HBCU a Black Ivy League instead of letting your credentials speak for itself.
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