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Post by aggieblackie2 on Jan 26, 2024 21:03:48 GMT -5
I am trying to stop you from trying to keep it alive by pretending to worry about other colleges in Greensboro. Don't know why you keep instigating this topic. There are plenty of other topics to discuss "YB".
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Post by The Professor on Jan 26, 2024 22:32:23 GMT -5
Lol the boiler went out. Actually the boiler blew this summer and what failed was the backup solution. Hence no heat on campus. I don't think it's anything you can go unless you replace the system with a brand new system. It's just like your furnace or AC unit. It goes out at some point, this was just bad timing Dang, is that something we could've/should've gotten emergency funding from the state to cover? I imagine if the boiler went out at some other state institutions (you're welcome to guess which ones I'm thinking about) then there would be a priority placed on adequate replacement. Honestly, if played correctly any news report about the event would start out with “a prominent state school that is owed BILLIONS of dollars by the state lost heat during a cold wave…”. Then when you interview complaining students ask them if they were aware of the money the state owes us and that the school cannot sue for the money on its own behalf. Heat be back on in 17 minutes 😂 we are in the middle of a replacement now , hence when the backup went down we were screwed. hub.ncat.edu/administration/business-and-finance/facilities/pdf/designer-advertisement-for-te-neal-boiler-3-and-controls.pdf
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Post by jbrob on Jan 29, 2024 20:42:12 GMT -5
Tale of two boilers: What caused nearly 1,800 N.C. A&T students to lose heat? "If it was replaced earlier, we would not be here today with the problems we've experienced," Barlow said. It was early autumn at the time and still warm outside, so the more noticeable issue was the lack of hot water rather than no heat, he recalled. Barlow said it takes over 12 months for a new replacement boiler to be assembled and delivered — meaning, A&T should have it by the end of 2024. While the university waited for a new boiler, they leased a temporary one, which had to be hooked up outside the steam plant greensboro.com/news/local/education/nc-at-heat-boiler-bill-barlow-unc-infrastructure-heaters/article_c4ee96e8-bc89-11ee-8208-abfcb6a273e0.html
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Post by jbrob on Jan 29, 2024 20:43:52 GMT -5
Barlow said placing the boiler outside the plant wasn't ideal because the machinery and all its lines are exposed to the elements.
So in December, another temporary boiler was added outside the plant — a contingency plan in case the other one failed.
Instead, both broke down when the especially cold temperatures hit the area last week.
In order to get them working, the university used big heaters to thaw out the boiler lines and workers repaired valves damaged by the freeze.
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Post by DOOMS on Jan 30, 2024 8:57:08 GMT -5
Whoever is responsible for media at T should ensure any article about the failing boiler prominently discusses the billions we are owed by the state.
In fact, any article about us whatsoever needs to discuss that fact.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 30, 2024 9:59:19 GMT -5
If the chancellor is not willing to advocate for any restitution of those funds, I am not sure how much impact just adding a blurb about it the footer of a press release will have.
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Post by DOOMS on Jan 30, 2024 10:08:55 GMT -5
I don't think the Chancellor is allowed to advocate for any restitution of those funds. I haven't seen not one Chancellor at any state school in any state advocate for the funds themselves. So adding blurbs in every press release is a great way to keep it at the forefront and to keep those who would criticize us at bay to see things in perspective until the alumni do something about it imo.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 30, 2024 10:14:27 GMT -5
The Chancellor basically told the alumni not to do anything about it at the last town hall meeting. He said it was not a good idea to sue to the state.
He controls his administration and staff members, so he probably would prevent such a blurb from even being inserted into a press release.
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Post by DOOMS on Jan 30, 2024 10:21:48 GMT -5
He ain’t told me sheeet 😂. Besides, I’m not saying put it in a press release, I’m saying making sure it’s mentioned consistently. For example, if some one interviewed me about my alma mater today, I would damn sure crowbar it into the conversation.
Even if he has a particular opinion about actually suing, he may have a wholly separate opinion about consistently reminding people that the state wronged us to the tune of billions of dollars as often as possible.
Furthermore, a lame duck chancellor’s opinion means what exactly? After he is gone, we will still be owed the money. It appears the state may never pay up. If so, we basically have the ability to walk on water in the media by issuing the consistent reminder at every opportunity.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Jan 30, 2024 10:31:56 GMT -5
He ain’t told me sheeet 😂. Besides, I’m not saying put it in a press release, I’m saying making sure it’s mentioned consistently. For example, if some one interviewed me about my alma mater today, I would damn sure crowbar it into the conversation. Even if he has a particular opinion about actually suing, he may have a wholly separate opinion about consistently reminding people that the state wronged us to the tune of billions of dollars as often as possible. Furthermore, a lame duck chancellor’s opinion means what exactly? After he is gone, we will still be owed the money. It appears the state may never pay up. If so, we basically have the ability to walk on water in the media by issuing the consistent reminder at every opportunity. I do get why Chancellor (Emeritus) Martin said to not sue. He likely used it as leverage with the state Leg to increase the yearly funding for research and facilities. We need them to approve the funding for our new building for College of Health and Human Sciences and the new convocation center within the next 8 to 10 years. We also need Peter Hans to play nice with us regarding his selection of our next Chancellor. It's "Politics as Usual," and I suspect we're doing just that.
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Post by The Professor on Feb 5, 2024 10:13:37 GMT -5
Guess what's been approved
A new boiler
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Post by The Professor on Feb 9, 2024 0:12:41 GMT -5
Dear Students,
I hope the Spring 2024 semester continues to go well for each of you. Keep working hard – the end of the term is only three months away and will arrive faster than you expect!
I’m following up today with a summation of the steam plant issue that challenged us last month. In the aftermath of any such episode, it’s important to review what happened and to discuss what will happen next (that news is particularly good, and I’ll get to it in just a moment). To recap:
In the early morning hours of Wednesday, Jan. 17, the boiler system that provides steam-driven heat and hot water to most of our campus failed. The problem was caused primarily by three consecutive nights of low temperatures of 15 degrees Fahrenheit or less. Our Department of Facilities Services responded to the issue quickly, working together and with outside contractors to assess the system and begin to problem solve.
While ambient heat kept buildings comfortable for a few hours, we knew that the necessary repair work could not be completed immediately. We canceled all classes that morning, and by noon, canceled them for the remainder of Wednesday and all day Thursday, Jan. 18, announcing that classes would resume Friday, Jan. 19, exclusively remotely.
Housing and Residence Life quickly reserved more than 700 off-campus hotel beds and notified residential students on Wednesday that they could return home for the remainder of the week, stay with a trusted friend in one of the unaffected campus residences or off-campus A&T apartments or ask for an assignment in one of the hotels. More than 550 students opted for a hotel placement, and everyone was shuttled to their destination by midnight, less than 24 hours after the boiler system failed.
Facilities procured a secondary boiler the following day, and by Thursday afternoon, heat began flowing back into the affected buildings. To give residence halls time to fully re-heat, we allowed students to begin moving back in at 8 a.m. Friday. Campus shuttles provided transportation to students to and from the Student Center throughout Thursday and Friday. As students checked out of the hotels throughout Friday, shuttles transported students back to their residence halls, with all students back on campus by 7:30 p.m.
Though the heating system was operational again, some campus buildings continued to experience intermittent heating issues, notably Murrow Hall. However, those lingering issues have all been resolved, and the replacement boiler system continues to meet our needs.
Longer term, a full modernization of our steam plant is necessary. The good news is that project is funded and will begin later this year. This will be a significant undertaking that will involve limited down time for the heating system – not like we experienced in January, but shorter spans of an hour or two. Most of the work requiring down time will be scheduled for warmer months and times when campus is largely unoccupied. The project will be completed by early 2025 and will leave us with a modern, state-of-the-art system to serve our growing university’s needs well into the future.
Going forward, any residential student who is experiencing heating, cooling or other issues in their hall or room should go to the online work order system and submit the request for service right away, which will automatically notify Campus Facilities as well as their residence hall director. Your issue will be addressed in a timely fashion.
Finally, some thanks are in order. Our Facilities teams worked round the clock, from early Wednesday morning through Thursday night, to reboot the heating system. They completed that work days earlier than we originally thought possible. I thank them all for their dedication and hard work.
Housing and Residence Life, likewise, accomplished a move of more than 550 students from A&T into off-campus hotels in a matter of hours. Campus Enterprises kept shuttles running continuously to ensure students had transportation to and from campus and kept dining halls running throughout the incident to ensure everyone was fed. The professionalism of the staff in both these areas was exemplary, and I thank them, as well.
But my biggest thanks go to you, our students, especially the residential students who understood the challenges of an unexpected mechanical failure and worked with us to quickly get to your temporary housing placement, go to a friend’s residence or home to your families. This incident was inconvenient for everyone, but you made it better with your cooperative spirit and can-do attitude.
Thank you all for showing once again that, as always, Aggies DO!
Sincerely,
Harold L. Martin Sr.
Chancellor
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Post by AggieDad17 on Feb 9, 2024 6:40:03 GMT -5
^^^^^^^great example of mature communication, ownership, problem solving, and collaboration between departments. A great lesson to all the students who made social media posts about this inconvenience. Problems will always arise, it’s how you handle things under pressure that separate the leaders from the sideline whiners. Well done Chancellor Martin!
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Post by The Professor on Mar 7, 2024 10:47:16 GMT -5
He ain’t told me sheeet 😂. Besides, I’m not saying put it in a press release, I’m saying making sure it’s mentioned consistently. For example, if some one interviewed me about my alma mater today, I would damn sure crowbar it into the conversation. Even if he has a particular opinion about actually suing, he may have a wholly separate opinion about consistently reminding people that the state wronged us to the tune of billions of dollars as often as possible. Furthermore, a lame duck chancellor’s opinion means what exactly? After he is gone, we will still be owed the money. It appears the state may never pay up. If so, we basically have the ability to walk on water in the media by issuing the consistent reminder at every opportunity. I do get why Chancellor (Emeritus) Martin said to not sue. He likely used it as leverage with the state Leg to increase the yearly funding for research and facilities. We need them to approve the funding for our new building for College of Health and Human Sciences and the new convocation center within the next 8 to 10 years. We also need Peter Hans to play nice with us regarding his selection of our next Chancellor. It's "Politics as Usual," and I suspect we're doing just that. Yea cause who sues their boss. lol
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 7, 2024 11:32:01 GMT -5
A lot of people do actually. AND they keep their jobs. Black males in my branch of the gubment just won a class action against the Agency.
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