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Post by aggieswag on Nov 20, 2023 17:46:41 GMT -5
That era did not start w a winning program and squandered. We were already on the outs. It’s not the same slide. Playing in a conference championship to 1-10 is beyond embarrassing. That is damn near impossible to do but we manage to do it. No it's not when you: - Move to a more difficult conference - Have several VERY GOOD players leave (before the current coach is parted ways with) - Have several good kids graduate/have no more eligibility - Have your QB succession broken (Yeager, from previous staff, not turn out). For all those reasons is why you don’t blow up your two major programs in a midst of a transition. These teams were not that great. And we def would have been in the middle of the pac at the very least. Then the narrative is not you moved and cannot compete. I don’t care about the semantics- perception is reality. The Rhode Island announcer “this is the Aggies first season in the CAA and like expected it’s been a challenge they have not won any games” - we are talked about like this from PWIs and HBCUS. Now this man has to recruit w angry players talking trash on Twitter, people leaving in droves, and a 1-10 record. I’m not as optimistic as you guys but I pray I’m wrong and we have stellar recruiting and turn the tables. But I have a hunch this is going to get worse before it gets better. Just on the premise of perception which is why the decision to blow up both programs at the same time was ludicrous.
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Post by dc93aggie on Nov 20, 2023 17:50:39 GMT -5
I totally agree with you. Our football program was very competitive for a while. In one year our administration and coaching staff were not good enough to maintain. We need a lot of help!!!! I see it as we're doing something different. As good as our 2014-2019 teams were, I believe they would have had difficulty in the CAA. We'll see what Brown does and how it goes. I do know our team was young, inexperienced & light. Those are things Brown knows and I expect he'll address/fix. I agree with A&T-Roy...This is a completely different level of competition. In 2016, we played our 3rd string QB against Richmond in the FCS playoffs which wasn't ideal, but still should have been more competitive than the 39-10 kicking we took. Richmond actually suited up a kid who hadn't played all year at QB and carved us up. I want to see what Brown is able to do with his recruits. And I think that's a fair ask...and I also think there will be a coaching change or two. You can't look at how we performed on both sides of the ball this year and say, I'm satisfied with that. We are absolutely doing something different, and growing pains are just that...painful. Look at Hampton's growth from year to year...if they can do it, we certainly can.
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Post by aggie2004 on Nov 20, 2023 17:50:50 GMT -5
We got more going out than coming in. I still can’t believe we obliterated this program to absolutely nothing. We are seriously endangered to losing to WSSU next season. Men’s basketball won’t look any better. The narrative will be we moved and couldn’t compete. It was all self inflicted. We’re the laughing stock of HBCUS. This is malpractice at the highest levels - and it’s a crying shame. [/quoI If/when we loss to WSSU, I gurantee some will still come on here and make excuses for the coach and I can gurantee this coach doesn't seem he willing to or even wants to make staff changes.
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Post by aggieswag on Nov 20, 2023 17:52:39 GMT -5
That was the worst year out of all the years that we were winning we didn’t even win the meac championship, which is the reason why we’re playing that game to begin with. NCCu would have beaten them that year. No way in the world people gonna tell me a Teams is beating the likes of Jacksonville State right number six ECUUNC Charlotte others would finished last in the CAA. That’s just ridiculous. It is what it is. There are no excuses.
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 20, 2023 17:56:37 GMT -5
No it's not when you: - Move to a more difficult conference - Have several VERY GOOD players leave (before the current coach is parted ways with) - Have several good kids graduate/have no more eligibility - Have your QB succession broken (Yeager, from previous staff, not turn out). For all those reasons is why you don’t blow up your two major programs in a midst of a transition. These teams were not that great. And we def would have been in the middle of the pac at the very least. Then the narrative is not you moved and cannot compete. I don’t care about the semantics- perception is reality. The Rhode Island announcer “this is the Aggies first season in the CAA and like expected it’s been a challenge they have not won any games” - we are talked about like this from PWIs and HBCUS. Now this man has to recruit w angry players talking trash on Twitter, people leaving in droves, and a 1-10 record. I’m not as optimistic as you guys but I pray I’m wrong and we have stellar recruiting and turn the tables. But I have a hunch this is going to get worse before it gets better. Just on the premise of perception which is why the decision to blow up both programs at the same time was ludicrous. Blow up the programs? Maybe you don't know that our basketball coach (Jones) did something egregious that got him fired. Or maybe you don't know that Coach Wash wasn't really with our moves from the MEAC. Or maybe you don't know that we understood we were ahead of what might have been a better timefranme to move but not accepting the invite might have caused us to miss it altogether. I can almost gaurantee you that no one said "Let's blow up our programs."
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 20, 2023 18:01:03 GMT -5
That was the worst year out of all the years that we were winning we didn’t even win the meac championship, which is the reason why we’re playing that game to begin with. NCCu would have beaten them that year. No way in the world people gonna tell me a Teams is beating the likes of Jacksonville State right number six ECUUNC Charlotte others would finished last in the CAA. That’s just ridiculous. It is what it is. There are no excuses. Let's me be clear, I wasn't saying we would finish last when I said we would have difficulty.. That said, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have been in the top 5 or 6 in the CAA...definitely wouldn't have won it like what we did in the MEAC. Oh, and we didn't come in last in the CAA!
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 20, 2023 18:06:20 GMT -5
Maybe you don't know that our basketball coach (Jones) did something egregious that got him fired. What did he do?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 20, 2023 18:12:42 GMT -5
I totally agree with you. Our football program was very competitive for a while. In one year our administration and coaching staff were not good enough to maintain. We need a lot of help!!!! I see it as we're doing something different. As good as our 2014-2019 teams were, I believe they would have had difficulty in the CAA. are you serious! those teams beat multiple "fbs" teams! those teams beat a "top 5" ranked fcs team (jacksonville state) in their home territory. all of those upsets came "on the road". yet, you think those 2014-2019 aggie teams would've had difficulty in this year's caa? absolutely not! with raynard/carter as our qb's and cohen/cartwright as our rb's? dude, pub-leeeze. i promise you, coach broadway or yes, even coach wash would've had a better season with the exact same players that coach brown had this season (without our players that transferred). clearly, nobody would've been running the ball down our throats "all season long" like this season. i mean, ain't no way in hail coach broadway or coach wash would've finished this season 1-10 with the exact same players and anybody who disputes that "needs their head examined"...
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Post by humbleaggie919 on Nov 20, 2023 18:13:05 GMT -5
Look who’s back in the portal
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 20, 2023 18:13:05 GMT -5
I totally agree with you. Our football program was very competitive for a while. In one year our administration and coaching staff were not good enough to maintain. We need a lot of help!!!! I see it as we're doing something different. As good as our 2014-2019 teams were, I believe they would have had difficulty in the CAA. We'll see what Brown does and how it goes. I do know our team was young, inexperienced & light. Those are things Brown knows and I expect he'll address/fix. Richmond beat us with a true freshman QB in 2016 😂😂
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Post by planoaggie on Nov 20, 2023 18:14:16 GMT -5
Oh, and we didn't come in last in the CAA! We did finish "tied" for last place in the CAA similarly that there was a 3-way tie for 1st place. I guess the CAA does not have any tiebreaker rules.
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 20, 2023 18:14:59 GMT -5
Maybe you don't know that our basketball coach (Jones) did something egregious that got him fired. What did he do? Can't be posted on this site!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 20, 2023 18:17:54 GMT -5
In 2016, we played our 3rd string QB against Richmond in the FCS playoffs which wasn't ideal, but still should have been more competitive than the 39-10 kicking we took. the buzzards scored 42 points on us that very same season, just one week prior to playing richmond. so why shouldn't richmond...
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Post by dc93aggie on Nov 20, 2023 18:20:27 GMT -5
the buzzards scored 42 points on us that very same season, just one week prior to playing richmond. so why shouldn't richmond... Understood...but you can't compare Malcolm Bell...the MEAC POY runner up to Tarik...to a kid that wasn't even on the roster at Richmond prior to our game. They literally called him out of class to play against us.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 20, 2023 18:23:34 GMT -5
Can't be posted on this site! Says who? Who is preventing that information from being posted?
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