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Post by saabman on Apr 6, 2022 5:52:12 GMT -5
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Post by bseballaggie on Apr 7, 2022 9:10:10 GMT -5
We should overwhelm him with a offer from Ross and Washington, he can thumb his nose at football but he canβt deny the track pedigree.
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Post by The Professor on Apr 25, 2022 17:04:43 GMT -5
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Post by saabman on Apr 25, 2022 18:01:25 GMT -5
Maybe but it never hurt to offer and present your case . Don't you think that it is time to stop assuming that this your athlete or any 4 or 5 star athlete would not consider an HBCU that's not JSU. Come on now really ππ
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Post by The Professor on Apr 26, 2022 15:34:31 GMT -5
Maybe but it never hurt to offer and present your case . Don't you think that it is time to stop assuming that this your athlete or any 4 or 5 star athlete would not consider an HBCU that's not JSU. Come on now really ππ It sounds nice in theory but the analytics say it's unlikely. Shedeur Sanders was the highest recuit ever to a FCS school and he was ranked 61 in 2021 Then Travis Hunter was the highest recuit ever to a FCS School and he was ranked number 2 in 2022. No other FCS program , HBCU or PWI, except JSU has signed a 4 or 5 star directly out of high school. In the history of tracking recuits which is like the last 30 years or so. In 2022 JSU got one 5 star and one 4 star. That again is All FCS. So why should we waste time on them
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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 26, 2022 16:08:34 GMT -5
Maybe but it never hurt to offer and present your case . Don't you think that it is time to stop assuming that this your athlete or any 4 or 5 star athlete would not consider an HBCU that's not JSU. Come on now really ππ It sounds nice in theory but the analytics say it's unlikely. Shedeur Sanders was the highest recuit ever to a FCS school and he was ranked 61 in 2021 Then Travis Hunter was the highest recuit ever to a FCS School and he was ranked number 2 in 2022. No other FCS program , HBCU or PWI, except JSU has signed a 4 or 5 star directly out of high school. In the history of tracking recuits which is like the last 30 years or so. In 2022 JSU got one 5 star and one 4 star. That again is All FCS. So why should we waste time on them I don't believe 4 or 5 star players should go to FCS programs out of high school...including us. After trying in FBS is a different story. That said, I might make some 4 and 5 star offers. Not so sure I'd spend a lot of time recruiting them unless there's some connection or what I believe to be good reasons. Who knows what their decision reasons might be.
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Post by saabman on Apr 26, 2022 17:41:58 GMT -5
Maybe but it never hurt to offer and present your case . Don't you think that it is time to stop assuming that this your athlete or any 4 or 5 star athlete would not consider an HBCU that's not JSU. Come on now really ππ It sounds nice in theory but the analytics say it's unlikely. Shedeur Sanders was the highest recuit ever to a FCS school and he was ranked 61 in 2021 Then Travis Hunter was the highest recuit ever to a FCS School and he was ranked number 2 in 2022. No other FCS program , HBCU or PWI, except JSU has signed a 4 or 5 star directly out of high school. In the history of tracking recuits which is like the last 30 years or so. In 2022 JSU got one 5 star and one 4 star. That again is All FCS. So why should we waste time on them Because you can . It's not like the kid is in California, he is right down the street in your own back yard.
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Post by saabman on Apr 26, 2022 18:07:18 GMT -5
It sounds nice in theory but the analytics say it's unlikely. Shedeur Sanders was the highest recuit ever to a FCS school and he was ranked 61 in 2021 Then Travis Hunter was the highest recuit ever to a FCS School and he was ranked number 2 in 2022. No other FCS program , HBCU or PWI, except JSU has signed a 4 or 5 star directly out of high school. In the history of tracking recuits which is like the last 30 years or so. In 2022 JSU got one 5 star and one 4 star. That again is All FCS. So why should we waste time on them I don't believe 4 or 5 star players should go to FCS programs out of high school...including us. After trying in FBS is a different story. That said, I might make some 4 and 5 star offers.Β Not so sure I'd spend a lot of time recruiting them unless there's some connection or what I believe to be good reasons. Who knows what their decision reasons might be.Β I agree to disagree . But on the out of HS side the way the parameters are now in the right FCS program and system an athletes chances are just as good at being drafted coming out of FCS as FBS . Now if your talking about being a first rounder especially at the skill positions they have a slim chance of going in the first two rounds . I say offer and present your case and if go FBS and things don't work out for what ever reason. You are ready have your programs foot in the door if the kid hits the portal. It's not hard to recuit a kid heavily in your own backyard . As the saying goes " Plant the seed " that we will be there for you if things don't work out.
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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 26, 2022 20:35:23 GMT -5
I don't believe 4 or 5 star players should go to FCS programs out of high school...including us. After trying in FBS is a different story. That said, I might make some 4 and 5 star offers. Not so sure I'd spend a lot of time recruiting them unless there's some connection or what I believe to be good reasons. Who knows what their decision reasons might be. I agree to disagree . But on the out of HS side the way the parameters are now in the right FCS program and system an athletes chances are just as good at being drafted coming out of FCS as FBS . Now if your talking about being a first rounder especially at the skill positions they have a slim chance of going in the first two rounds . I say offer and present your case and if go FBS and things don't work out for what ever reason. You are ready have your programs foot in the door if the kid hits the portal. It's not hard to recuit a kid heavily in your own backyard . As the saying goes " Plant the seed " that we will be there for you if things don't work out. Yeah. I think I would be okay with some backyard "Plant the seed." offers but I would be very careful of how much effort I put into them. Both of those things (Backyard & effort) can be very subjective: - Backyard - Greensboro, Triad, Western NC, NC, etc. - Effort - # of visits, # of contacts, who, etc.
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Post by saabman on Apr 26, 2022 22:49:01 GMT -5
I agree to disagree . But on the out of HS side the way the parameters are now in the right FCS program and system an athletes chances are just as good at being drafted coming out of FCS as FBS . Now if your talking about being a first rounder especially at the skill positions they have a slim chance of going in the first two rounds . I say offer and present your case and if go FBS and things don't work out for what ever reason. You are ready have your programs foot in the door if the kid hits the portal. It's not hard to recuit a kid heavily in your own backyard . As the saying goes " Plant the seed " that we will be there for you if things don't work out. Yeah. I think I would be okay with some backyard "Plant the seed." offers but I would be very careful of how much effort I put into them. Both of those things (Backyard & effort) can be very subjective: - Backyard - Greensboro, Triad, Western NC, NC, etc. - Effort - # of visits, # of contacts, who, etc. True that , but when that talent is located within the City and Country limits of Greensboro that should be a given even if they say no. I was talking to my sister about the recruiting of my nephew that ended up at Clemson. I asked her did A&T even try to recruit her son . She ( she played on the softball team )and her husband were both A&T alumni. She said there was no contact at all in the recruitment of DJ, Haywood Jeffries said the same thing . Having worked in recruiting I can tell you that just having your program on a 4 or 5 π players list is a benefit to your program. It's the little things that should not be overlooked even if it's just a Astrid on your recruiting board incoming recruiters and there families notice all of these things when they visit and will take the program more serious , because they see that a program is willing to go after the best if the sign them or not .
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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 27, 2022 11:21:52 GMT -5
Yeah. I think I would be okay with some backyard "Plant the seed." offers but I would be very careful of how much effort I put into them. Both of those things (Backyard & effort) can be very subjective: - Backyard - Greensboro, Triad, Western NC, NC, etc. - Effort - # of visits, # of contacts, who, etc. True that , but when that talent is located within the City and Country limits of Greensboro that should be a given even if they say no. I was talking to my sister about the recruiting of my nephew that ended up at Clemson. I asked her did A&T even try to recruit her son . She ( she played on the softball team )and her husband were both A&T alumni. She said there was no contact at all in the recruitment of DJ, Haywood Jeffries said the same thing . Having worked in recruiting I can tell you that just having your program on a 4 or 5 π players list is a benefit to your program. It's the little things that should not be overlooked even if it's just a Astrid on your recruiting board incoming recruiters and there families notice all of these things when they visit and will take the program more serious , because they see that a program is willing to go after the best if the sign them or not . I can get with that. Perception can be a beast.
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Post by saabman on Apr 27, 2022 14:30:25 GMT -5
True that , but when that talent is located within the City and Country limits of Greensboro that should be a given even if they say no. I was talking to my sister about the recruiting of my nephew that ended up at Clemson. I asked her did A&T even try to recruit her son . She ( she played on the softball team )and her husband were both A&T alumni. She said there was no contact at all in the recruitment of DJ, Haywood Jeffries said the same thing . Having worked in recruiting I can tell you that just having your program on a 4 or 5 π players list is a benefit to your program. It's the little things that should not be overlooked even if it's just a Astrid on your recruiting board incoming recruiters and there families notice all of these things when they visit and will take the program more serious , because they see that a program is willing to go after the best if the sign them or not . I can get with that. Perception can be a beast. Perception is the Beast.
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Post by numberonebrave on Apr 27, 2022 16:58:14 GMT -5
We have had this discussion before ... If the DJ is Reader the DT . I saw him on our sidelines with a woman at a game. Simmo photographed him and the coach identified him as Reader. Pat Bibbs once said she told a Blue Chip local recruit " don't go out and tell people we didn't try to recruit you"
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Post by numberonebrave on Apr 27, 2022 19:24:38 GMT -5
We have had this discussion before ... If the DJ is Reader the DT . I saw him on our sidelines with a woman at a game. Simmo photographed him and the coach identified him as Reader. Pat Bibbs once said she told a Blue Chip local recruit " don't go out and tell people we didn't try to recruit you"
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Post by saabman on Apr 27, 2022 22:02:32 GMT -5
We have had this discussion before ... If the DJ is Reader the DT . I saw him on our sidelines with a woman at a game. Simmo photographed him and the coach identified him as Reader. Pat Bibbs once said she told a Blue Chip local recruit " don't go out and tell people we didn't try to recruit you" OK Broadway and Coach Shumate did have a personal set down with DJ and his family on the DL and offered a Scholarships in Football and Baseball. My sister also stated that A&T was at the top of his list because Coach Broadway agreed to allow DJ to play both sports , because of his relationship with Coach Shumate . But when coach Shumate departed for NSU to coach there baseball program that opened the door for Clemson which offered the same Scholarship package . Also that picture that was taken on the field at the game was not an official visit. Coach Broadway invited DJ to stand on the sideline with his friend that was playing on the team at that time . Also something that you may find interesting is at DJ's Signing Day out of the 5 finalists hat's on the table one of the hats in the group was a A&T hat . My apologies as unorthodox as it was Broadway and Shumate both offered a ship to my nephew. And there should be no reason why the recruitment of 4 and 5 π talent should not continue.
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