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Post by DOOMS on Feb 8, 2020 13:43:21 GMT -5
I agree also . The MEAC leadership extends an invitation to NJIT and Monmouth already knowing that they cost of travel is a Paramount concern in the conference already ? WTF we're they thinking LHM LOL . I'M ALL IN FOR THE BS NOW! LHM..LOL Maybe they were trying to build a Northern division to reduce travel. Of course they were. They been trying to do that. That's how Winston and Savannah State ended up in the conference. Let's expand and create a northern and southern division, ability to compete and maintain a viable d-1 program be damned. That's not a plan. When the Big South invited us and Hampton, the very first thing they wanted to know was could we be viable? Hampton's in a sort of athletics rut right now but that'll change and the BS knows it. They're probably licking their lips at the thought of Central ad Norfolk. I think Howard would be a good move, but they would all out mutiny up there. Morgan would be a good move too but would the conference members want to make a stop in Baltimore? If SC State could come back around, oooohhhwweeeee. Merger complete.
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Post by Maxell on Feb 8, 2020 13:49:49 GMT -5
Maybe they were trying to build a Northern division to reduce travel. Of course they were. They been trying to do that. That's how Winston and Savannah State ended up in the conference. Let's expand and create a northern and southern division, ability to compete and maintain a viable d-1 program be damned. That's not a plan. When the Big South invited us and Hampton, the very first thing they wanted to know was could we be viable? Hampton's in a sort of athletics rut right now but that'll change and the BS knows it. They're probably licking their lips at the thought of Central ad Norfolk. I think Howard would be a good move, but they would all out mutiny up there. Morgan would be a good move too but would the conference members want to make a stop in Baltimore? If SC State could come back around, oooohhhwweeeee. Merger complete. Howard would fit very nicely into the academic profile they are hoping to maintain also but as you said, they ain't having it on Georgia Ave. Maybe.
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Post by lenman1 on Feb 8, 2020 15:18:16 GMT -5
Howard is a highly prestigious nationally and internationally known institution which belonging to the Big South would add nothing to their bonafides. Their President Frederick is the Chairman of the MEAC Council of Chief Executive Officers. FYI John Grant just announced via twitter that ESPN will extend the Celebration Bowl beyond 2020. I guess that talking point can be put to rest
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Post by marchingband1969 on Feb 8, 2020 15:41:00 GMT -5
All this "who's next" speculation is crazy. It take two to join a conference...a conference that wants you and a team that wants to move. I don't expect a mass exodus from MEAC to Big South in near future. But my bet is NCCU will be the first because anything we do they will copy! Lol
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Post by Maxell on Feb 8, 2020 15:53:32 GMT -5
Their President Frederick is the Chairman of the MEAC Council of Chief Executive Officers. Well that's been the problem all along. What does he know about sports? LOL
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Post by Maxell on Feb 8, 2020 16:00:00 GMT -5
Nevermind, then. I've said what I can say. Maybe the thread should be deleted. We obviously didn't do this. ^^ We're at 31 pages.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 8, 2020 16:01:43 GMT -5
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Post by aggierattler on Feb 8, 2020 16:10:38 GMT -5
OSA-- When this first came out on yesterday I pretty much felt the way that you do now. I hated this move...especially to this particular conference. And I still feel that they are getting much more out of this than we are. However, after sulking over it, sleeping on it and then watching the press conference, I understand why the move was made and can stomach it a little easier.
MAXELL-- What you stated was accurate and well-stated.
Without going into a whole lot of details, I was lucky to have a front-seat in the formation of the MEAC back in the late '60s and early '70s. Dr. Dowdy and Al Smith, along with administrators from NCCU, SCSU and Morgan State were leaders in this effort and pissed a lot of CIAA and SIAC folks off with their bold thinking. They ascertained who really wanted to be on-the-bus and launched the Division II MEAC with a strategic plan and a clear vision to become a Division I conference by the end of the 1970s. They, along with Commissioner Ken Free and others, accomplished that.
It's time to rise again.
We no longer have that type of leadership across-the-board. With the exception of Commissioner Free, all of the strong leaders with a vision have passed on. The only true visionary leader that we have is our own Dr. Harold Martin.
No one else is ready to rise. Not Norfolk State...not Morgan State...not Howard...not FAMU...not BCU nor SC State. A few others might eventually follow, but mainly we're on our own. So, looking at that, we cannot form our own conference like we were able to do back in 1970-71.
It's just us.
But not only will we thrive if we follow the plan and continue to make smart moves, I think we'll end up pulling these other clowns up with us.
That's just my take. I would say Morgan’s leadership is visionary right now (athletic changes, pursuing a medical school, the maryland higher ed law suit, and inserting itself in the merger convos concerning University of Baltimore) Howard seems to be on the right track. Central seems to follow our lead. I do not know about Norfolk. I will defer to you about FAMU. YOU ARE RIGHT...I was negligent in not mentioning Morgan State's leadership. They are going a great job up in Baltimore, from my viewpoint.
FAMU's Dr. Robinson is no Chancellor Martin when it comes to leadership and vision concerning collegiate athletics. He is very smart, but has no clue in that area, which he now readily admits. This is probably why Robinson has been consulting Dr. Martin a lot recently concerning athletic matters.
We shall see where that leads them. I know that the SWAC pales in comparison to the MEAC in many areas, and those at FAMU realize that.
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Post by saabman on Feb 8, 2020 16:11:38 GMT -5
All this "who's next" speculation is crazy. It take two to join a conference...a conference that wants you and a team that wants to move. I don't expect a mass exodus from MEAC to Big South in near future. But my bet is NCCU will be the first because anything we do they will copy! Lol My bet is South Carolina State .
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Post by AggiePride on Feb 8, 2020 16:16:45 GMT -5
I would say Morgan’s leadership is visionary right now (athletic changes, pursuing a medical school, the maryland higher ed law suit, and inserting itself in the merger convos concerning University of Baltimore) Howard seems to be on the right track. Central seems to follow our lead. I do not know about Norfolk. I will defer to you about FAMU. YOU ARE RIGHT...I was negligent in not mentioning Morgan State's leadership. They are going a great job up in Baltimore, from my viewpoint.
FAMU's Dr. Robinson is no Chancellor Martin when it comes to leadership and vision concerning collegiate athletics. He is very smart, but has no clue in that area, which he now readily admits. This is probably why Robinson has been consulting Dr. Martin a lot recently concerning athletic matters.
We shall see where that leads them. I know that the SWAC pales in comparison to the MEAC in many areas, and those at FAMU realize that.Although, this move still AINT sitting right with me, your comments above is the reasons why i say more is going on than we know. No way Martin burned bridges, no doubt he probably called every chancellor in the MEAC and spoke to them.
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Post by aggierattler on Feb 8, 2020 16:19:41 GMT -5
STATMAN1955 is still an athletic administrator in FAMU Athletics, and he's been preaching this for a very long time. I don't know what FAMU will do, especially with this new aggressive 31-year old athletics director and his top henchman Keith McCluney, but I don't think that they'll ride much longer without a leadership change in the MEAC Office (that's just my opinion).
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Post by DOOMS on Feb 8, 2020 16:42:44 GMT -5
McCluney?
Bad idea. I’ll leave it at that.
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Post by aggie252 on Feb 8, 2020 16:44:24 GMT -5
Big South commissioner on the David Glenn show. He speaks on us keeping the NCCU rivalry, and how the league has private and religious schools who have certain OOC schedule requirements, and that the league they helps support and encourages that. Also speaks on the talk of us using them to jump to to FBS. Around the 26 min mark. www.hipcast.com/podcast/Hsy8Jb
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Post by aggierattler on Feb 8, 2020 17:35:43 GMT -5
McCluney? Bad idea. I’ll leave it at that. They definitely see that now!!! It's getting bad over there with him as their Deputy AD.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 18:54:45 GMT -5
McCluney? Bad idea. I’ll leave it at that. They definitely see that now!!! It's getting bad over there with him as their Deputy AD.
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