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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Sept 17, 2019 11:48:32 GMT -5
Very good interview with NC 6th District Rep. Mark Walker. Please take some time to listen. Student Athlete Equity Act Discussion - 0:25 A&T Relationship - 21:40 "The Elephant in the Room" - 22:30 A&T Football Discussion - 23:50 soundcloud.com/user-684278551/episode-47-rep-mark-walker
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 17, 2019 21:16:12 GMT -5
Not a Republican but I love the way Congressman Walker embraces A&t and hbcus.
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Post by Freeze on Sept 17, 2019 22:03:52 GMT -5
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 17, 2019 22:21:30 GMT -5
The tone of the interview didn't really allow for a hard follow-up, but at least they presented Walker with the voting district question.
I am sure he was already prepared for it and was able to dance around the issue without really saying anything, but they made him address it.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Sept 17, 2019 22:25:18 GMT -5
This is the "Elephant in the Room" that was brought in the interview at 22:30. Walker pretty much knows how A&T will vote given the climate. He is a decent man with an extremely compromised political affiliation. The sad part is that there are enough A-A voters in both the 6th and the 13th to make both races flip. The issue is our communities have been apathetic voters with the exception of the Obama elections. And if you're waiting on the U.S. Supreme Court to rule in our favor... try again: www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-allows-gerrymandering-north-carolina-maryland-n1014656We have to get as many people registered to vote as possible. And then people have to vote to their conscience.
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Post by Freeze on Sept 17, 2019 22:35:11 GMT -5
This is the "Elephant in the Room" that was brought in the interview at 22:30. Walker pretty much knows how A&T will vote given the climate. He is a decent man with an extremely compromised political affiliation. The sad part is that there are enough A-A voters in both the 6th and the 13th to make both races flip. The issue is our communities have been apathetic voters with the exception of the Obama elections. And if you're waiting on the U.S. Supreme Court to rule in our favor... try again: www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-allows-gerrymandering-north-carolina-maryland-n1014656We have to get as many people registered to vote as possible. And then people have to vote to their conscience. Ahhh....my bad. I thought I read somewhere recently that NC had agreed to redraw the districts. That's even worse then.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 17, 2019 22:38:05 GMT -5
So basically, Walker is afraid that if all of the A&T campus was in his district there would potentially be enough people to vote him out of office.
That is why his party worked to split the campus in half; to minimize A&T's voting impact.
Ideally, I wish Turk and Jeff would have asked him "why" the campus was split like that in the first place, and not just what he thought about it.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 17, 2019 22:41:37 GMT -5
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Sept 17, 2019 22:59:38 GMT -5
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Post by Maxell on Sept 17, 2019 23:07:44 GMT -5
Remember A&T used to be in district 12 which looked like a snake from Greensboro to Charlotte and Alma Adams was our congressperson. Those old lines were drawn to keep all the black folk in one district and preserve Republican strongholds. Walker seems like a decent guy, he's the one that has adopted the campus. His wife actually got her nursing degree from WSSU. The other representative Budd stays relatively quiet about A&T. Walker knows that having the entire campus in one district would make it more difficult for the Republican candidates. So far Walker has one registered challenger in 2020.
To his credit, Walker from District 6 (east side) did give an AGGIE PRIDE is the congress this year acknowledging the Celebration Bowl victory. Not a peep from Ted Budd from District 13 (west side) which also has UNCG in it.
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Post by Aggie One on Sept 17, 2019 23:24:30 GMT -5
This is the "Elephant in the Room" that was brought in the interview at 22:30. Walker pretty much knows how A&T will vote given the climate. He is a decent man with an extremely compromised political affiliation. The sad part is that there are enough A-A voters in both the 6th and the 13th to make both races flip. The issue is our communities have been apathetic voters with the exception of the Obama elections. And if you're waiting on the U.S. Supreme Court to rule in our favor... try again: www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-allows-gerrymandering-north-carolina-maryland-n1014656We have to get as many people registered to vote as possible. And then people have to vote to their conscience. Ahhh....my bad. I thought I read somewhere recently that NC had agreed to redraw the districts. That's even worse then. That's an very dated article Durham and no longer accurate. The issue is now being settled by a state 3-judge panel (Democratically controlled) in accordance with the U.S. Supreme Court ruling. Actually this Republican Supreme Court shot themselves in the foot by kicking back to the state decide the issue on gerrymandering because the courts of NC have a heavily Democratic dominated judiciary. In fact the court will get the first drafts this morning to review. The panel specifically mentioned in both its order and instructions that it will reject any new map that would split A&T in two and that atrocity would have to addressed. These new state districts will be on the 2020 ballot and very well could shift the balance of power in this state literally overnight. I am cautiously optimistic that the ill-gotten Republican majority in the General Assembly just might have a collective stroke before the courts are finally finished with them.North Carolina’s Legislative Maps Are Thrown Out by State Court PanelBy Michael Wines and Richard Fausset Sept. 3, 2019In a major blow to Republicans who control the Legislature in one of the nation’s most bitterly divided states, a state court panel threw out North Carolina’s state legislative maps as an unconstitutional partisan gerrymander and ordered lawmakers to draw up new ones in two weeks. The ruling on Tuesday by a three-judge panel in Raleigh had the potential to bring to a decisive end a yearslong battle over gerrymandering in a critical swing state and indicated that state courts could act to rein in patently partisan electoral maps after the United States Supreme Court ruled in June, by a 5-to-4 margin, that federal courts could not. The Republican leader of the State Senate, Phil Berger, cast the decision as part of a national Democratic strategy to overturn Republican rule via the courts, but said the Legislature would not appeal the ruling. The North Carolina Supreme Court, which would hear any appeal, has six Democratic justices and one Republican. “It contradicts the Constitution and binding legal precedent, but we intend to respect the court’s decision and finally put this divisive battle behind us,” Mr. Berger said in a statement. “It’s time to move on.” But Democrats and the voting rights advocacy groups who challenged North Carolina’s maps were giddy over what they depicted as a vital victory for fair electoral maps. For the rest of the story:www.nytimes.com/2019/09/03/us/north-carolina-gerrymander-unconstitutional.html
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 17, 2019 23:33:00 GMT -5
We need to form a Blue Death political action committee.
I want to get one of you mofos on the school board or city council or something.
Hell, Durham already thinks he knows everything. We can probably put him in office somewhere.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Sept 17, 2019 23:45:45 GMT -5
Ahhh....my bad. I thought I read somewhere recently that NC had agreed to redraw the districts. That's even worse then. That's an very dated article Durham and no longer accurate. The issue is now being settled by a state 3-judge panel (Democratically controlled) in accordance with the U.S. Supreme Court ruling. Actually this Republican Supreme Court shot themselves in the foot by kicking back to the state decide the issue on gerrymandering because the courts of NC have a heavily Democratic dominated judiciary. In fact the court will get the first drafts this morning to review. The panel specifically mentioned in both its order and instructions that it will reject any new map that would split A&T in two and that atrocity would have to addressed. These new state districts will be on the 2020 ballot and very well could shift the balance of power in this state literally overnight. I am cautiously optimistic that the ill-gotten Republican majority in the General Assembly just might have a collective stroke before the courts are finally finished with them.North Carolina’s Legislative Maps Are Thrown Out by State Court PanelBy Michael Wines and Richard Fausset Sept. 3, 2019In a major blow to Republicans who control the Legislature in one of the nation’s most bitterly divided states, a state court panel threw out North Carolina’s state legislative maps as an unconstitutional partisan gerrymander and ordered lawmakers to draw up new ones in two weeks. The ruling on Tuesday by a three-judge panel in Raleigh had the potential to bring to a decisive end a yearslong battle over gerrymandering in a critical swing state and indicated that state courts could act to rein in patently partisan electoral maps after the United States Supreme Court ruled in June, by a 5-to-4 margin, that federal courts could not. The Republican leader of the State Senate, Phil Berger, cast the decision as part of a national Democratic strategy to overturn Republican rule via the courts, but said the Legislature would not appeal the ruling. The North Carolina Supreme Court, which would hear any appeal, has six Democratic justices and one Republican. “It contradicts the Constitution and binding legal precedent, but we intend to respect the court’s decision and finally put this divisive battle behind us,” Mr. Berger said in a statement. “It’s time to move on.” But Democrats and the voting rights advocacy groups who challenged North Carolina’s maps were giddy over what they depicted as a vital victory for fair electoral maps. For the rest of the story:www.nytimes.com/2019/09/03/us/north-carolina-gerrymander-unconstitutional.htmlYeah. I posted the updated one while you were typing. LOL The state judicial instructions aren't for the U.S. Congressional Districts, per both articles. That will have to be a separate lawsuit that could make it through the courts prior to the 2020 election cycle. The redrawn maps were confusing as heck until I realized they weren't the U.S. Congressional maps, but the state maps. So we shall see in the next year. Until then, let's try to encourage as many people as possible to register to vote.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Sept 17, 2019 23:49:59 GMT -5
We need to form a Blue Death political action committee. I want to get one of you mofos on the school board or city council or something. Hell, Durham already thinks he knows everything. We can probably put him in office somewhere. I don't think I know everything... LOL But I do think it's important to talk about some of everything. And in that regard, you can't be afraid of what you know or what you don't know. If we're not engaging a topic, we're all but guaranteed to know less about it than we should.
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Post by Maxell on Sept 18, 2019 0:15:44 GMT -5
Thomas Hofeller was a Republican map strategist who died last year. He resided in Raleigh,N.C. and redrew districts all over the country. From the Tweet: Hofeller's daughter previously said in a deposition she was inspired to come forward and turn over the files to Common Cause after she read an interview with Daley, who wrote a book on GOP efforts to gerrymander
One of the most notorious gerrymandered lines cuts through NC A&T State University. Hofeller kept detailed information on his computer about the racial breakdown and voting tendencies of students, sorted by their residence halls.
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