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Post by bigpeete1 on Sept 15, 2019 19:19:58 GMT -5
Duke gave Charleston Southern and other teams the blue-print for beating the AGGIES(make Carter beat you with his arm and stop the run but Martin got loose and we won), we must make adjustments and we'll be OK.
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Post by saabman on Sept 15, 2019 19:35:29 GMT -5
I'm with everyone on this one. We are only 12-3 since Barnette took over as OC. Yeah, let's run his azz out of town. No one is saying that he should be ran out of town at least I'm not . But what I will say is his play calling needs some work and he should know his QB's strengths and weaknesses and provide a system or scheme that benefits and works towards the QB's strong points . Also you have to change up the routes from last year ; you can use the same formations but the routes have to have some type of variations to them . I still have hope that the OC will open up his playbook and design a scheme that fits Carter's abilities .
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Post by aggieepower1990 on Sept 15, 2019 21:17:22 GMT -5
I am guessing the top programs have consulting budgets to hire an expert to help the HC, OC or DC think through things, develop strategies and proceed expert insight. Im curious if anyone know this to be the case for sure?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 22:43:54 GMT -5
Yall said the exact same thing last year when Raynard was in his early season slump. Bornthrilla can lock the thread at this point. LOL!
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Post by A&T-roy on Sept 15, 2019 23:40:17 GMT -5
The ONLY thing we need to do is to spread the ball around more (TE from being lined up in-line/beside the tackles, slants, seam routes, etc.) by specific calls or the QB to do so himself.
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Post by saabman on Sept 16, 2019 12:45:17 GMT -5
The ONLY thing we need to do is to spread the ball around more (TE from being lined up in-line/beside the tackles, slants, seam routes, etc.) by specific calls or the QB to do so himself. I don't think that Coach Washington or the OC will allow the QB to change a route or check down to another play at the line . That is why you see Bell being the focal point of most of the passes . You can also look at how they practice if the ball is not spread around at practice what makes you think it's going to be spread around in a game ; at practice is when the OC should step in and let Carter know that Bell is not the only target on the field . I'm willing to bet that Bell gets most of the balls thrown his way in practice . You can not make Carter into a pocket passer ; Carter is at his best when he is moving , moving pocket or roll out that is who and how he plays . Just let Carter be Carter OC and give him the plays that fit his skills set .
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Sept 16, 2019 12:58:04 GMT -5
Carter is dependable, strong, don't make a lot of turnovers, knows the system, decent passer, decent runner and is a winner.
I will stay with him all day. Don't change jack as far as the qb.
Now we may need to take a second look at the OC position even though he has a 12-3 record as someone mentioned earlier.
Few years ago we would have killed for a 12-3 record.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 16, 2019 13:05:19 GMT -5
I think these next 10 days are going to be significant for Barnette's career, moving forward.
He has enough time to polish up his playbook, work on Carter's mechanics and get the overall passing game back on track.
If we struggle offensively against Del State next Thursday night, all bets are off.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 16, 2019 13:06:10 GMT -5
of course i'm late chiming in because i missed the entire game until yesterday when i finally watched the entire "replay" on espn plus. but hey, let me throw some numbers at ya'll and ya'll tell me if these numbers justify benching your starting qb after the first 3 or 4 games of the season.
game 1 => 12-34-1 (35% passing, 111 yards, 1 int) game 2 => 10-20 (50% passing, 94 yards) game 3 => 14-24-1 (58% passing, 125 yards, 1 int) game 4 => 5-16-2 (31% passing, 56 yards, "2" int's)
now, does those numbers look familiar? would you "bench" your starting qb if he had those numbers? heck, would you bench carter if he had those numbers?
well, if you answered "yes" to those 3 questions, then you would've "benched" raynard last season after his first 4 games. by comparison, thru raynard's first 3 games last year, raynard completed 46% of his passes for a "total" of 330 yards and "2" int's. carter's first 3 games this season he completed 49% of his passes for a "total" of 479 yards and "zero" int's.
so "statistically", carter's first 3 games he "out performed" raynard's first 3 games of last year. carter completed a "higher percentage" passing (49% to 46%), carter passed for more yards (479 yards to 330 yards), and carter passed for "fewer" int's ("zero" int's to raynard's "2" int's) after "3" games.
but raynard's stats got even "worse" thru 4 games. raynard was 5-16-2 (31% passing, 56 yards, "2" int's) against morgan state last year, a game that we "loss".
now, how many of ya'll called for raynard's head last year after 4 games? how many of ya'll posted a thread entitled "its time for a qb change" after 3 or 4 games last year? mind you, by game 4 raynard had "4" int's (carter still has "zero" this year and only "1" in his entire aggie career) and raynard's overall passing percentage was "43%". yet, i don't recall any threads like this one being posted last year. matter fact, i don't even recall anybody calling for raynard to be "benched", much less post a thread like this one.
now, that being stated, i do not think carter had a great game against charleston southern. but it wasn't nearly as bad as some of ya'll make it out to be. yes, carter was only 1 completion under 50% passing. however, i know i witnessed at least 3 "drops" and 2 "out of bounds" catches that would've easily gave carter an above 50% completion game.
i also noticed that carter had maybe 3 really poor throws no where near the target. but i also noticed he was under heavy "pressure" when he made those throws, so he "hurried" his throws on those plays. that's why defensively "hurries" are important.
additionally, i saw just as many "drops" as i did poor throws in that game. so you can't put all of that on the qb. if the ball hits you in "both hands", then you're supposed to "catch" the doggone ball. also, charleston southern's db's broke up a couple of "accurate" passes.
so did carter have a great game? no, he didn't. but did he have a "horrible" game as someone stated? absolutely not. had we not beat ecu last year (a game that carter won for us, mind you), we'd have the exact same record at this point in the season as last year. matter fact, if we beat dsu next game, we'd have the exact same record after 4 games as last year.
so why is everybody "panicking"? i told some of ya'll days before the game not to "sleep on charleston southern". i stated that i saw some things in their game against south carolina that "concerned" me and indeed it turned out that their passing game made us pay. i think coach washington hit the nail on the head, we came out "flat as a pancake" while charleston southern came out "fired up" as a mugg. charleston was on the sideline literally "partying" after every big play they made. very "reminiscent" of last year's game when we were "flat" against morgan state which we "loss".
so i think the whole team and the "coaches" could've performed better. the blame shouldn't be placed on one individual player. the good news is that we won the game unlike the morgan state game last year. and again, a lot of ya'll keep forgetting that we had to replace "14" starters this year unlike last year. yet, we're currently on pace to match our exact same record after 4 games this year if we beat dsu.
so again i ask, why is everybody "panicking"? i'll tell ya why ya'll are "panicking", because ya'll took charleston southern "lightly" only because of their last year's record. charleston has a brand new head coach this year. did it ever dawn on some of ya'll that charleston southern just might be a better team this year?
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Post by trues on Sept 16, 2019 13:09:12 GMT -5
Carter is dependable, strong, don't make a lot of turnovers, knows the system, decent passer, decent runner and is a winner. I will stay with him all day. Don't change jack as far as the qb. Now we may need to take a second look at the OC position even though he has a 12-3 record as someone mentioned earlier. Few years ago we would have killed for a 12-3 record. I disagree Carter need to know he can be pull and not feel as though he got the starting job on lock. Put Ifedi in the game if he continue to play horrible. You all don't remember when Broadway pull Raynard out the game for the rest of the season after that horrible SC state game he played.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Sept 16, 2019 13:10:00 GMT -5
I think we have to be careful about throwing the OC out with the proverbial bathwater.
Yes... would have liked for him to have rolled Kylil out the pocket earlier as an initial adjustment to CSU's zone blitzkrieg in the 1st half. And we could have went to max-protection a little sooner as well on the deep routes.
But one thing to consider about our outside-heavy passing concept. When a defense has to extend coverage leverage to the boundary in the passing game... there's less leverage in the middle of the field.
Translation: Nobody's home in the run game after the 1st level due to the OC's play design AND play-calling. And when you have a home-run hitter at RB... that's not so bad of a concept. Three 60+ yard TD runs says as much.
It's fair to criticize the OC. I just wanted to provide this perspective as part of the critique.
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 16, 2019 13:13:09 GMT -5
I think we all called for Raynard's head except trues truthfully. Likewise I don't think but maybe one or two people are calling for Carter's head. Unfortunately the loudest ones always seem to make the largest impression on here. As far as the oc, like I said a page ago he's still learning and working, plus doing double-duty as oc and qb coach. There will be growing pains working with a first-year starter who had a broken leg earlier this year and didn't participate in spring practice. If we can manage to get a sizeable enough lead at some point (something I don't have great confidence in given our lack of returning starters) then I assume we'll see the other qbs as coach promised. The answer to the question the title of this thread poses is It's time for an attitude change. We fans have to be realistic at this point. 14 lost starters. Disappearing recruits and players. These coaches are coaching their asses off and the players are playing their asses off. And we're upset because we didn't beat a program on the rise bad enough?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 16, 2019 13:18:32 GMT -5
I disagree Carter need to know he can be pull and not feel as though he got the starting job on lock. Put Ifedi in the game if he continue to play horrible. trues, let me ask you a question. did you call for raynard to be benched after 4 games last season? i know the answer, so don't bother answering it. so, why didn't you call for raynard to be "pulled" last year after the morgan state game which we "loss"? his stats were far "worse" than carter's...
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Sept 16, 2019 13:21:16 GMT -5
I think these next 10 days are going to be significant for Barnette's career, moving forward. He has enough time to polish up his playbook, work on Carter's mechanics and get the overall passing game back on track. If we struggle offensively against Del State next Thursday night, all bets are off. Agree.
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 16, 2019 13:25:41 GMT -5
Del State has a decent roster and a good coaching staff. That won't be a cakewalk.
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