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Post by ball4lyfe on Mar 10, 2019 12:52:41 GMT -5
There isn’t any criteria. Head coaches and SID’s from what’s been said nominate players on their teams for awards. I don’t believe you’re allowed to vote for your own players. Then for the Coach of the Year, Player of the Year, Rookie of the Year awards are selected in the same way, but you can’t vote for yourself. That’s it to win an award. The person with the most votes.
To think Coach Rob didn’t deserve it this year is mind blowing. 16-0 is no easy feat in any conference. EVERY undefeated team in other conferences across the country head coach received the award except the MEAC. Winning more with less makes sense but not when a team went undefeated and makes history.
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Post by VA's Finest on Mar 10, 2019 13:14:51 GMT -5
Amazing, Coach Rob is already getting the Auriema treatment, lol.
Long as we keep dominating its all good, he gets the last laugh, because in pretty sure those COY winners would much rather have the regular season or tourney title.
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Post by saabman on Mar 10, 2019 13:23:43 GMT -5
There isn’t any criteria. Head coaches and SID’s from what’s been said nominate players on their teams for awards. I don’t believe you’re allowed to vote for your own players. Then for the Coach of the Year, Player of the Year, Rookie of the Year awards are selected in the same way, but you can’t vote for yourself. That’s it to win an award. The person with the most votes. To think Coach Rob didn’t deserve it this year is mind blowing. 16-0 is no easy feat in any conference. EVERY undefeated team in other conferences across the country head coach received the award except the MEAC. Winning more with less makes sense but not when a team went undefeated and makes history. Coach Rob deserved the award we all know that and we will never know how or why he didn't receive it. A&T's coaches and players need to use this to there advantage going into the Tournament by winning the MEAC championship and getting there ticket to the Big Dance . Because if they lose at any point this hold conversation will be a Mute point !!! So just Bering the Championship home and we can continue this conversation after the MEAC Tournament .
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 10, 2019 13:42:40 GMT -5
It’s the AAF......y’all think I’m lying. It’s to the point now where everything we’re doing is supposed to be done by us. Folks view us on a different level, especially since Hampton bolted. There’s A&T....then there’s the MEAC. That’s how it is nowadays. Don’t be upset about it.....we just gotta ambrace it, keep pushing forward and embarking upon new ground (ie. Winning an NCAA game or 2). We’ve mastered this MEAC. It’s about the next level now.
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 11, 2019 6:22:01 GMT -5
There isn’t any criteria. Head coaches and SID’s from what’s been said nominate players on their teams for awards. I don’t believe you’re allowed to vote for your own players. Then for the Coach of the Year, Player of the Year, Rookie of the Year awards are selected in the same way, but you can’t vote for yourself. That’s it to win an award. The person with the most votes. To think Coach Rob didn’t deserve it this year is mind blowing. 16-0 is no easy feat in any conference. EVERY undefeated team in other conferences across the country head coach received the award except the MEAC. Winning more with less makes sense but not when a team went undefeated and makes history. Back up. Is there criteria for the award or not? If not then losing to JCSU at home and showing a massive one game improvement in conference (granted that was the max he could get since he only lost one game in conference last year) give Batchelor enough to win the award over him in my book. That doesn't account for other seasons, but you can't complain the man doesn't win out of conference and then up and complain because he didn't win the conference coach of the year award. Seems to me if he wants the award he needs to represent the conference against non-conference teams... ...Unless that's not the criteria for the award (if there is criteria). The statement that there is some "anti-aggie fatigue" is probably the most arrogant and disappointing foolishness I've read in a while. Nobody gets annoyed with you winning so long as you win with class. If we're being classless then the statement has merit. If not then we can continue to strive for excellence and our sister institutions can do the same and we can all celebrate one another's successes.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 11, 2019 6:45:51 GMT -5
Couldn’t disagree with you more Dooms....it’s not being arrogant at all. It’s being truthful. We’re the biggest HBCU in the nation, and getting bigger by the day. A&T was won virtually everything this conference has to offer in athletics. For women’s basketball, we’re 31-1 out of the past 2 regular seasons.....34-1 when you add the postseason tourny. That is being so dominant that it’s virtually expected for us to do this. We don’t get awards, particularly in women’s basketball, because we’ve been so consistently better than everyone else that there is fatigue about giving us more accolades.
I’ll take it a step further. The same thing would be happening if it was another school. If Howard morphed into the best team in the league, and was winning game after game after game...after a while, folks would get tired (aka fatigued) with handing them awards. It’s more human nature than anything else. Folks don’t like giving awards to the same person over and over and over again....even when they’re clearly deserving of it. MJ won the NBA MVP award 5 times. It sounds like a lot, but dude was the best player in the NBA for well over a decade.
That’s why I’m not too perturbed by the lack of recognition our ladies get. We gotta set our goals higher and push for personal excellence, whether we get awards for it or not.....
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 11, 2019 8:15:57 GMT -5
I can actually walk with you a decent portion down the path nss, but not the whole way. I can easily see (ignorant immature) people saying "I'm so tired of hearing about A&T all the damn time." But honestly, they don't count. The people that count are the ones that are saying they want to outshine A&T and are working to improve their own situations.
As far as being so good in conference it's expected for you to continue: when you're already that good how do you quantify making somebody coach of the year. You simply did what was expected of you. Had you won games outside of the conference (you know, the ones we complained he was losing) and not completely embarrassed the conference by having the undefeated conference champ lose to a winless d-2 squad at home, then maybe you have the right to complain. Unless of course that's not the criteria.
We've had other schools dominate over the years. I went from an immature kid that hated them to a guy that wished we could emulate and exceed their success. Thankfully our chancellor sees it properly and he insured we would exceed the success of our peers. Do some of their fans hate it? Sure. Again, they don't count.
They also have to set their goals higher and push for personal excellence, and our coach has to push to win games starting with game one of the season all the way through the conference and beyond. Going 16-0 in conference and 3-10 out of conference with supposedly the best squad in the conference? Gotta kick it up a few notches in those pre-conference games.
That's just my opinion and I'm sure parts of it are dead wrong. But it's probably the same way a lot of people who didn't see Robinson as the coach of the year saw it too, at least for this year.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 11, 2019 9:11:41 GMT -5
If anyone's been advocating for Coach Rob to have a greater focus on November/December....it's been me. I'm not saying he's not focused during those months, but I do get the sense that we sometimes views those OOC games/months as a way to "work ourselves into shape for the MEAC regular season." Rightfully or wrongfully, that's the way I FEEL he looks at those months. Take that for whatever it's worth.
With all of that being said, it still is an impressive feat to go through a conference ledger unblemished. We've had our fair share of off-the-court issues as well with this team. For them to stay focused throughout all of this is a testament to him and his staff.
Would I have given him the COY award - yes. Am I losing sleep over him not getting it - no.
It is worth mentioning that UMES did lose 3 out of their last 5 conference games. I know their coach got COY, but they didn't finish the season strong at all.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Mar 11, 2019 9:26:51 GMT -5
Coach Rob pretty much said there were some team chemistry issues early on and some individual player challenges. After the 16 conference win he elude to the power of prayer in his comments.
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Post by ball4lyfe on Mar 11, 2019 12:40:38 GMT -5
To continue to bring up the non-conference schedule in a conversation that only is relatable to the conference schedule makes no sense DOOMS. Sounds very much like a hater. All conference awards in EVERY conference across the country is solely voted on by what you do in the conference, not out of it. The “criteria” mentioned before is all that’s needed to get on the ballot.
To say that Coach Rob didn’t improve enough in conference play to deserve the award has to be the most ignorant thing I’ve ever read on here. The MEAC doesn’t play more than 16 games. So there wasn’t anything else Coach Rob could do to win more games than the previous seasons outside of what he did, a perfect record. How do you have the conference record he has and not earn ONE Coach of the Year award in 7 seasons? How can we say he’s dominated the league, which he has, and doesn’t get that recognition ONCE? Of course everyone wants to win championships, but people should also be rewarded for what they’ve accomplished. Let’s not forget last season Bethune-Cookman had the Coach of the Year, Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, and then 4 or 5 all conference selections (after having the same exact conference record as A&T at 15-1) and lose their quarterfinal game to a high seed by double figures. Yet we only had 1 or 2 all conference selections and win the the championship for a second time under Coach Rob. Kala Green who was second on the team in scoring didn’t get an all conference selection but ends up being the Most Outstanding Player of the Tournament? Makes absolutely no sense. The hate is real for our Lady Aggie Basketball Team. Some not affiliated with A&T and quite possibly those that claim to love this university. The more we don’t oppose that verbiage, the more we say it’s ok to do it. The more we allow the league to treat us this way, the more they’re going to do it. I think it’s extremely unacceptable to just “accept” this and say it’s the norm because A&T wins to much. That’s BS and we should call it what it is. A few coaches coaches in the conference, coaches across the country, agents, etc have done so in support of Coach Robinson after the MEAC announced the awards. What was done to him was unheard of. It forced the UMES coach to make a statement about it.
You want to bring up the Lady Aggies non-conference record and losing to JCSU as a reason to not be Coach of the Year....let’s compare it to the HC at UMES who did win. UMES went 4-9 in non-conference play this year. Two of their wins were against non-D1 teams which we all know don’t matter. The Lady Aggies went 3-10 in non conference play. Very similar records. The Lady Aggies also have a higher RPI score than UMES does according to the NCAA website. So even with the Lady Aggies having a slightly worse non-conference record, they still have the best RPI in the MEAC as compared to UMES and every other team in the MEAC.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 11, 2019 13:14:47 GMT -5
look, coach rob "deserves" the meac coach of the year award, period, end of discussion, book closed...
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 11, 2019 15:11:51 GMT -5
To continue to bring up the non-conference schedule in a conversation that only is relatable to the conference schedule makes no sense DOOMS. Sounds very much like a hater. All conference awards in EVERY conference across the country is solely voted on by what you do in the conference, not out of it. The “criteria” mentioned before is all that’s needed to get on the ballot. To say that Coach Rob didn’t improve enough in conference play to deserve the award has to be the most ignorant thing I’ve ever read on here. The MEAC doesn’t play more than 16 games. So there wasn’t anything else Coach Rob could do to win more games than the previous seasons outside of what he did, a perfect record. How do you have the conference record he has and not earn ONE Coach of the Year award in 7 seasons? How can we say he’s dominated the league, which he has, and doesn’t get that recognition ONCE? Of course everyone wants to win championships, but people should also be rewarded for what they’ve accomplished. Let’s not forget last season Bethune-Cookman had the Coach of the Year, Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, and then 4 or 5 all conference selections (after having the same exact conference record as A&T at 15-1) and lose their quarterfinal game to a high seed by double figures. Yet we only had 1 or 2 all conference selections and win the the championship for a second time under Coach Rob. Kala Green who was second on the team in scoring didn’t get an all conference selection but ends up being the Most Outstanding Player of the Tournament? Makes absolutely no sense. The hate is real for our Lady Aggie Basketball Team. Some not affiliated with A&T and quite possibly those that claim to love this university. The more we don’t oppose that verbiage, the more we say it’s ok to do it. The more we allow the league to treat us this way, the more they’re going to do it. I think it’s extremely unacceptable to just “accept” this and say it’s the norm because A&T wins to much. That’s BS and we should call it what it is. A few coaches coaches in the conference, coaches across the country, agents, etc have done so in support of Coach Robinson after the MEAC announced the awards. What was done to him was unheard of. It forced the UMES coach to make a statement about it. You want to bring up the Lady Aggies non-conference record and losing to JCSU as a reason to not be Coach of the Year....let’s compare it to the HC at UMES who did win. UMES went 4-9 in non-conference play this year. Two of their wins were against non-D1 teams which we all know don’t matter. The Lady Aggies went 3-10 in non conference play. Very similar records. The Lady Aggies also have a higher RPI score than UMES does according to the NCAA website. So even with the Lady Aggies having a slightly worse non-conference record, they still have the best RPI in the MEAC as compared to UMES and every other team in the MEAC. The first sentence at the top of the page you typed was "There isn’t any criteria." Either there is or there isn't. If there is I'm wondering what it is. If there isn't it's difficult for me personally to see how you can say the conference coach of the year lost to a winless lower division school at home. The two don't belong in the same sentence. And as far as this year goes that combined with the EXTREMELY poor early season play leads me to believe I'm not the only one who saw it that way. I can't account for past years nor will I even attempt to do so. But I'm also uninterested in pursuing a persecution complex angle. That's just not my style. That being stated there may be some merit to it. I just don't seeing it being as applicable this year as others.
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