oleschoolaggie
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 3, 2019 13:05:59 GMT -5
There are other concerns, especially coming to Ayantee. We run the ball. HOW WELL DOES HE BLOCK? If he can't block he ain't seeing the field at all. We also need our qbs to be able to establish a rapport with all our receivers. The ones that block, catch, and know how to get open are the ones that'll see the field most. i dunno, but maybe that's why bah didn't see as much playing time last season. however, toward the end of edwards video, he actually showed some blocking ability, though wr blocking in high school is a lot easier than blocking at the fcs level... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards
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Post by ohsixrain on Apr 3, 2019 13:52:11 GMT -5
I only used Randy Moss' name to show the mismatches that can be created by a skill-set. It's a game of match-ups when you doubled Randy Moss, Chris Carter burnt his man to a crisp. So, if we can create an advantage on the outside, I believe that will allow Leslie, Bell to burn their men to a crispy type of texture. And if Bah is as good as you say he is, we should be already doing that with him but, I didn't hardly see him on the field last year. you're not the only one who compared him to randy moss, i believe a couple other guys did it too. shoot, i don't know why bah didn't see the field as much last season as i'd like to see him get. he did have leslie and bell in front of him, that could be the reason. but hunt saw the field more than bah did (if my memory serves me correctly) and i don't understand why. but hey, i trust our coaches. i suspect they had good reason not to play bah as much, but i just don't know what that reason was. however, take a look at edwards' highlight video and please tell me what you see about him in that video that says "immediate impact can't keep off the field" as a true freshman? he had some very impressive highlights, but i would expect far more "big plays" than what i saw on his video for him to be considered "immediate impact can't keep off the field" as a true freshman. i would also expect to see him demonstrate better "pull away speed" than what i saw on his video akin to tarik, where he's in a crowd of defenders and he creates "immediate separation" with his speed like tarik and simply "out runs" them to the endzone. i didn't see much of that in his video either... I say he can play as a true freshman because, his catch radius is larger than your normal receiver much like Bell, Keyes and Leslie. That's what I see...and in high school, he's not getting the ball every down so to say he didn't have more big plays could be misleading. He seemed to make the most of his opportunities. I doesn't look to me that his qb in high school was overly accurate so he had to catch what got near him or throw it up and let him go get it. But, when you have a receiver that can go get the ball, that makes the qb's job a lot easier.
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Post by saabman on Apr 3, 2019 14:45:17 GMT -5
you're not the only one who compared him to randy moss, i believe a couple other guys did it too. shoot, i don't know why bah didn't see the field as much last season as i'd like to see him get. he did have leslie and bell in front of him, that could be the reason. but hunt saw the field more than bah did (if my memory serves me correctly) and i don't understand why. but hey, i trust our coaches. i suspect they had good reason not to play bah as much, but i just don't know what that reason was. however, take a look at edwards' highlight video and please tell me what you see about him in that video that says "immediate impact can't keep off the field" as a true freshman? he had some very impressive highlights, but i would expect far more "big plays" than what i saw on his video for him to be considered "immediate impact can't keep off the field" as a true freshman. i would also expect to see him demonstrate better "pull away speed" than what i saw on his video akin to tarik, where he's in a crowd of defenders and he creates "immediate separation" with his speed like tarik and simply "out runs" them to the endzone. i didn't see much of that in his video either... I say he can play as a true freshman because, his catch radius is larger than your normal receiver much like Bell, Keyes and Leslie. That's what I see...and in high school, he's not getting the ball every down so to say he didn't have more big plays could be misleading. He seemed to make the most of his opportunities. I doesn't look to me that his qb in high school was overly accurate so he had to catch what got near him or throw it up and let him go get it. But, when you have a receiver that can go get the ball, that makes the qb's job a lot easier. I agree with your assessment RAIN . What I saw on his tape was just the opposite . I saw separations on his routes , I saw a player that did not shy away from The Middle or catching the ball in Crowd , a receiver out run angles by the DB's . And yes I did say Edwards reminds me a lot of Randy Moss who is also a longstrider when running . Yes most in coming freshman will have blocking issues coming out of high school we're blocking is not emphasize as much for wideout receivers on the wings . Most of the time I do agree with OSA & THRILLER (not as much ) LOL . But this Edwards kid is special and will be on the field next season . Now as far as the comparison to The Kid aka Tarik Cohen speed wise that is apples and oranges because if I am not mistaken nobody knew anything about The Kid and a lot made the same comments about his size until Mayhew got hurt and the rest was History . As for me a 185 to 195 , 6 ft 5 receiver is the ideal size for college football because I having recruited kids that size and some smaller that had a fine career in college and in the NFL . One that comes to mind that ran summer track for me Marquis Goodwin although Edwards may not have his speed he has Smoke's confidence which will benefit him going forward.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 3, 2019 16:12:30 GMT -5
I say he can play as a true freshman because, his catch radius is larger than your normal receiver much like Bell, Keyes and Leslie. That's what I see...and in high school, he's not getting the ball every down so to say he didn't have more big plays could be misleading. He seemed to make the most of his opportunities. I doesn't look to me that his qb in high school was overly accurate so he had to catch what got near him or throw it up and let him go get it. But, when you have a receiver that can go get the ball, that makes the qb's job a lot easier. I agree with your assessment RAIN . What I saw on his tape was just the opposite . I saw separations on his routes , I saw a player that did not shy away from The Middle or catching the ball in Crowd , a receiver out run angles by the DB's . And yes I did say Edwards reminds me a lot of Randy Moss who is also a longstrider when running . Yes most in coming freshman will have blocking issues coming out of high school we're blocking is not emphasize as much for wideout receivers on the wings . Most of the time I do agree with OSA & THRILLER (not as much ) LOL . But this Edwards kid is special and will be on the field next season . Now as far as the comparison to The Kid aka Tarik Cohen speed wise that is apples and oranges because if I am not mistaken nobody knew anything about The Kid and a lot made the same comments about his size until Mayhew got hurt and the rest was History . As for me a 185 to 195 , 6 ft 5 receiver is the ideal size for college football because I having recruited kids that size and some smaller that had a fine career in college and in the NFL . One that comes to mind that ran summer track for me Marquis Goodwin although Edwards may not have his speed he has Smoke's confidence which will benefit him going forward. hey saab, i'm not saying edwards should "never" see the field as a true freshman, especially since they can now play in 4 games without burning their redshirt. all i'm saying is that i don't see "overwhelming" talent that "catapults" him pass some of our more experienced receivers. i saw a few plays where he caught the ball in front of several defenders and had ample "lanes" available to him to accelerate and beat them all to the endzone if he had "break away" speed like tarik or malik wilson. but i didn't see tarik/malik wilson kind of "break away" speed from edwards. he's fast, no doubt. but not tarik cohen/malik wilson kind of fast. i didn't see anything on his highlight video that leslie or bah can't do, imo. but he does have "way better" hands than hunt. indeed the kid is a talent, but i honestly don't see him having the kind of season that bell had as a true freshman. to me, if you're as thin as he is, you'd better have superior speed or outstanding "agility" in additon to the ability to catch the ball under pressure and it remains to be seen if edwards is ready to do that "immediately" at this level. but no question down the road he could. and yes, i saw him create "separation" before the catch when running his routes. but i didn't see him create "separation" after the catch with the ball in his hands as frequently as i'd like to if he's gonna be an "immediate impact" guy. separation is much easier without the ball than it is with the ball...
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Post by saabman on Apr 3, 2019 16:31:13 GMT -5
I agree with your assessment RAIN . What I saw on his tape was just the opposite . I saw separations on his routes , I saw a player that did not shy away from The Middle or catching the ball in Crowd , a receiver out run angles by the DB's . And yes I did say Edwards reminds me a lot of Randy Moss who is also a longstrider when running . Yes most in coming freshman will have blocking issues coming out of high school we're blocking is not emphasize as much for wideout receivers on the wings . Most of the time I do agree with OSA & THRILLER (not as much ) LOL . But this Edwards kid is special and will be on the field next season . Now as far as the comparison to The Kid aka Tarik Cohen speed wise that is apples and oranges because if I am not mistaken nobody knew anything about The Kid and a lot made the same comments about his size until Mayhew got hurt and the rest was History . As for me a 185 to 195 , 6 ft 5 receiver is the ideal size for college football because I having recruited kids that size and some smaller that had a fine career in college and in the NFL . One that comes to mind that ran summer track for me Marquis Goodwin although Edwards may not have his speed he has Smoke's confidence which will benefit him going forward. hey saab, i'm not saying edwards should "never" see the field as a true freshman, especially since they can now play in 4 games without burning their redshirt. all i'm saying is that i don't see "overwhelming" talent that "catapults" him pass some of our more experienced receivers. i saw a few plays where he caught the ball in front of several defenders and had ample "lanes" available to him to accelerate and beat them all to the endzone if he had "break away" speed like tarik or malik wilson. but i didn't see tarik/malik wilson kind of "break away" speed from edwards. he's fast, no doubt. but not tarik cohen/malik wilson kind of fast. i didn't see anything on his highlight video that leslie or bah can't do, imo. but he does have "way better" hands than hunt. indeed the kid is a talent, but i honestly don't see him having the kind of season that bell had as a true freshman. to me, if you're as thin as he is, you'd better have superior speed or outstanding "agility" in additon to the ability to catch the ball under pressure and it remains to be seen if edwards is ready to do that "immediately" at this level. but no question down the road he could. and yes, i saw him create "separation" before the catch when running his routes. but i didn't see him create "separation" after the catch with the ball in his hands as frequently as i'd like to if he's gonna be an "immediate impact" guy. separation is much easier without the ball than it is with the ball... I agree with the above assessment OSA I stated almost the same in a older post . I think I said " he has to prove his self in practice and he has 4 games to get himself into the rotation at receiver " I think that was the exact statement but you know being old you never know. As far as the speed wise The Kid H no not even close but remember The Kid ran a season with A&T's Track team to improve his turnover . Edwards will benefit from running track before he arrives on campus if he has intentions on cracking the rotation but who knows because I was a track man that played Football . His speed is deceiving because he is a long stridor . But I feel what your saying .
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Post by chapoboy on Apr 3, 2019 23:25:11 GMT -5
Also remember that Edwards played for a sorry a$$ team. I’m from Charlotte and East Meck been terrible for 20 years. They play against top competition in Charlotte. And they always run the ball, so just image if he played for a average team that threw him the ball. He would be a borderline 4 star.
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Post by saabman on Apr 4, 2019 0:04:48 GMT -5
Also remember that Edwards played for a sorry azz team. I’m from Charlotte and East Meck been terrible for 20 years. They play against top competition in Charlotte. And they always run the ball, so just image if he played for a average team that threw him the ball. He would be a borderline 4 star. What stands out for me about Edwards is , yes his team was sorry but he was productive in a run first system , in ,7 games he had close to 900 are so yard's , 64 catches ( I think ?) over 20 yards per catch and also had 3 Ints playing as a DB and runs a 4.5 or less 40 , 10.8 -100m , 48.8 - 400m, 22.5 - 200m the kid has talent but he has to prove that he belongs at this level . A&T did it's part now it's up to Edwards to find his way on to the field and into the rotation . I think he can play as a true Freshman but that is just my opinion . What really counts is his actions .
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Post by AggieGroove on Apr 4, 2019 9:10:21 GMT -5
Man....I understand this is a fan site but you dudes debate everything on and on and on....lol! Sometimes just let it go....
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Post by saabman on Apr 4, 2019 9:19:56 GMT -5
Man....I understand this is a fan site but you dudes debate everything on and on and on....lol! Sometimes just let it go.... YUP that about right
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Apr 4, 2019 9:32:55 GMT -5
Man....I understand this is a fan site but you dudes debate everything on and on and on....lol! Sometimes just let it go.... That's what Aggies DO...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 4, 2019 10:02:38 GMT -5
The best way to end a conversation on this site is to begin a new one.
Dont complain about long threads if you are not creating interesting topics yourself.
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Post by AggieGroove on Apr 4, 2019 10:28:10 GMT -5
The best way to end a conversation on this site is to begin a new one. Dont complain about long threads if you are not creating interesting topics yourself. Too MF funnie....I’m not commenting about the topic only the conversation about mr Edwards status for the upcoming FB season....I’m out!
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Post by ohsixrain on Apr 4, 2019 10:40:51 GMT -5
Well, me personally, I don't think the kid shows up on campus in the fall, competes and is NOT in the conversation for playing time. I just don't think that will happen...I have no proof obviously, but, I don't believe it will happen.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 4, 2019 10:53:43 GMT -5
The best way to end a conversation on this site is to begin a new one. Dont complain about long threads if you are not creating interesting topics yourself. Too MF funnie....I’m not commenting about the topic only the conversation about mr Edwards status for the upcoming FB season....I’m out! My comment was not directed towards you specially, but just the folks on this site in general. Too many people just read the threads all day anonymously, while the same 5-10 people are taking the time give their opinion and drive the conversations forward. We would have a much more lively site around here if more people would engage in the topics and maybe even created new topics from time to time.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 4, 2019 11:22:40 GMT -5
thrilla, your suggestion just rang a bell relative to a new topic! there has been disputes amongst aggies about which a&t upset of a major d1 school was the most significant. some folk said the lady aggies wnit victories over wake forest and unc charlotte was the most significant. others say aggie football's win over ecu, while others say track & field's kayla white's national indoor championship at the d1 level was the most significant, or baseball's recent upset of the univ. of south carolina.
i'll open a new thread relative to this topic when i have a chance...
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