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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 28, 2018 13:45:02 GMT -5
No disrespect, but I think it is time to take a more analytical approach to our kicking game and invest in some proven methods to enhance the kid's mechanics.
Just doing what sorta worked decades ago is not gonna improve our current situation, in my opinion.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Aug 28, 2018 13:47:42 GMT -5
if we don't already have one, sounds like we need a "legit" true kicking coach who has "prior experience" as a kicker and knows what da hail he's talking 'bout. i think "repetition and practice" is very important, but it ain't worth a darn if you don't have good coaching and good "fundamentals". to me, dude simply didn't look "smooth" and "comfortable" when he missed that extra point. i think the tv announcer made a good point, his "left plant foot" as he kicked that missed extra point didn't look smooth or stable at all... Yep announcer said when he kicked it his left foot was turned in and should be stright for a extra point as no angle is needed. Maybe they can get a part time guy to work with a few days a week “consultant”. The concern to me was his body language did not say “I got this”
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Post by DOOMS on Aug 28, 2018 13:49:43 GMT -5
No disrespect, but I think it is time to take a more analytical approach to our kicking game and invest in some proven methods to enhance the kid's mechanics. Just doing what sorta worked decades ago is not gonna improve our current situation, in my opinion. Or it might. Everybody's issue is different. Remember some years back when our kicker (I can't remember which one or which era exactly) couldn't hit the side of a barn primarily due to bad snaps and they fixed it by snapping the ball in Cooper over and over and he hit the rest of the season? He might just need to go Rocky instead of going Ivan Drago in order to win this fight. there's no easy way oooouuutttt
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 28, 2018 13:58:20 GMT -5
if we don't already have one, sounds like we need a "legit" true kicking coach who has "prior experience" as a kicker and knows what da hail he's talking 'bout. i think "repetition and practice" is very important, but it ain't worth a darn if you don't have good coaching and good "fundamentals". to me, dude simply didn't look "smooth" and "comfortable" when he missed that extra point. i think the tv announcer made a good point, his "left plant foot" as he kicked that missed extra point didn't look smooth or stable at all... Yep announcer said when he kicked it his left foot was turned in and should be stright for a extra point as no angle is needed. Maybe they can get a part time guy to work with a few days a week “consultant”. The concern to me was his body language did not say “I got this” yeah, i'm afraid his confidence is shot too. his teammates tried to make him feel better after he missed the extra point, several of them tapped him on his helmet when he got to the sideline. man, its never good when your kicker loses "confidence"...
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Post by trues on Aug 28, 2018 16:09:41 GMT -5
Yep announcer said when he kicked it his left foot was turned in and should be stright for a extra point as no angle is needed. Maybe they can get a part time guy to work with a few days a week “consultant”. The concern to me was his body language did not say “I got this” yeah, i'm afraid his confidence is shot too. his teammates tried to make him feel better after he missed the extra point, several of them tapped him on his helmet when he got to the sideline. man, its never good when your kicker loses "confidence"... This is why I really think this conversation should be in the private. We dont know this kid mental state hopefully he does not read our post.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 28, 2018 17:08:12 GMT -5
yeah, i'm afraid his confidence is shot too. his teammates tried to make him feel better after he missed the extra point, several of them tapped him on his helmet when he got to the sideline. man, its never good when your kicker loses "confidence"... This is why I really think this conversation should be in the private. We dont know this kid mental state hopefully he does not read our post. yeah, you're right. maybe one of the moderators can move this thread to the private forum cuz lawd knows i don't wanna contribute to any lack of confidence...
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Post by saabman on Aug 28, 2018 19:42:42 GMT -5
This is why I really think this conversation should be in the private. We dont know this kid mental state hopefully he does not read our post. yeah, you're right. maybe one of the moderators can move this thread to the private forum cuz lawd knows i don't wanna contribute to any lack of confidence... Why go Private ? 1. If he is lacking in the confidence department he picked the wrong positions to play on the football team ! Being a kicker period Punts , Field Goals or extra points that is the loneliest position on a Football team so he needs to get over it (if he has a confidence problem ) ! 2. All the kid needs is coaching I have spent sometime around kickers and there is one thing I do know is this " If his plant leg foot is not pointed towards his target and his shoulders are not Square when his kicking leg makes contact he is most likely is going to miss his shot " because he is off Angle ! Kind of like a shooter squareing his shoulders in Basketball . The young man needs a kicking coach not someone that thanks they can coach kickers . You wouldn't have a LB's coach coaching your QB's would you ? Hale can find a Soccer coach to instruct the young man . Because one day we are going to need his Leg to get us over the hump !!
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 28, 2018 19:45:14 GMT -5
We wouldn't have any issues if yall could just follow the ground rules: I'm dont really have the desire to shame a A&T student athlete on this open forum ... but I also dont want to sit around and criticize somebody behind their backs either. So here's a compromise: let's keep individual names and numbers out of it, and instead just refer to the various players in those roles as the special teams unit in general Let me state that again: this thread is not about a specific player. I am talking about our special teams unit in general. The last time I checked we have never been that great at consistently putting a ball through the uprights (outside of maybe Yannick Matthews). Our kicking issues didn't start with the current players on the roster. BTW: This is a honest discussion that fans on a message board should be able to have in the open without malice. I dont only care what the diehard members of the BDF think about this topic; I would like to hear some different voices and get some outside opinions on this subject too. Also, I'm not saying anything on this thread that I wouldn't say to a coach's or player's face.
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Post by aggieblackie on Aug 28, 2018 21:33:47 GMT -5
We have not had a kicking game in any respect in years. Yes, we had Cody and he made some good ones but I was not impressed with him. How in the hell can we be a top 10 team with a sorry kicking game. It is going to bite us in the azzzz before the year is up.
Our kick off kicker can't kick the ball to the 10 yard line let alone the end zone. Other teams always get a great start because our kicker can't kick for distance. Our punter did a fair job and I was not impressed.
The FG kicker needs to find another position on the team. Kids in high school can out kick him.
This is one aspect of our program that needs to be addressed asap. Find a soccer kicker or somebody. We are going to lose a close game behind our poor FG and Extra Point kicker(s). We had this problem last year. There are thousands of kickers in the US and abroad and we can't seem to find one.
True strong programs have strong kickers.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 28, 2018 22:03:34 GMT -5
Aggieblackie, you might have the worst reading comprehension of anybody on this site.
We just asked everyone to refrain from singling out individual players for this topic. This is a discussion about the kicking game in general.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Aug 29, 2018 20:52:43 GMT -5
We wouldn't have any issues if yall could just follow the ground rules: I'm dont really have the desire to shame a A&T student athlete on this open forum ... but I also dont want to sit around and criticize somebody behind their backs either. So here's a compromise: let's keep individual names and numbers out of it, and instead just refer to the various players in those roles as the special teams unit in general Let me state that again: this thread is not about a specific player. I am talking about our special teams unit in general. The last time I checked we have never been that great at consistently putting a ball through the uprights (outside of maybe Yannick Matthews). Our kicking issues didn't start with the current players on the roster. BTW: This is a honest discussion that fans on a message board should be able to have in the open without malice. I dont only care what the diehard members of the BDF think about this topic; I would like to hear some different voices and get some outside opinions on this subject too. Also, I'm not saying anything on this thread that I wouldn't say to a coach's or player's face. Thanks to Thrilla, I won't be calling former A&T kicking great Yannick Matthews, Yannick Noah again. Noah is the former French tennis great. My memory works well every now and then. However, I can still see Matthews 51 yard field against Elon. That was a great victory. I still think that former kickers like Matthews and Cody Jones can help solve our kicking game. Remember Jones left A&T with a great kicking percentage. We not only need accuracy in field goals and extra points, but also distance on kickoffs.
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Post by The Professor on Aug 30, 2018 3:08:47 GMT -5
Is our kicker the all world FBS recuit from a couple of years ago
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Aug 30, 2018 8:29:24 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 30, 2018 9:16:29 GMT -5
We wouldn't have any issues if yall could just follow the ground rules: I'm dont really have the desire to shame a A&T student athlete on this open forum ... but I also dont want to sit around and criticize somebody behind their backs either. So here's a compromise: let's keep individual names and numbers out of it, and instead just refer to the various players in those roles as the special teams unit in general Let me state that again: this thread is not about a specific player. I am talking about our special teams unit in general. The last time I checked we have never been that great at consistently putting a ball through the uprights (outside of maybe Yannick Matthews). Our kicking issues didn't start with the current players on the roster. BTW: This is a honest discussion that fans on a message board should be able to have in the open without malice. I dont only care what the diehard members of the BDF think about this topic; I would like to hear some different voices and get some outside opinions on this subject too. Also, I'm not saying anything on this thread that I wouldn't say to a coach's or player's face. Thrilla, I'd have to say our special teams as a whole were pretty good with the exception of the kicking game. We made big plays and didn't give up any big plays on special teams. But, we did have a field goal and extra point blocked. Even the field goal one could argue the protection didn't hold up because #93 was standing right in front of the kicker when he blocked it but, the extra point...I have nothing in defense of that. It was not blocked, the kicker just missed. Now, I equate this to growing pains, he's still young and he is trying to find his rhythm as a kicker so he can become consistent. But, until that time, give the backup a chance...that's what he is there for.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 2, 2018 21:23:00 GMT -5
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