the summer of our discontent?

[oleschoolaggie]

look, its well known on this message board that i often complain about the lack of facility enhancements at corbett center. however, i don't comment about the hiring or firing of coaches, nor do i attack the ad/chancellor. generally, i praise our coaches and our admins.

but that being stated, we don't live in north korea or iran where folk are forbidden to say negative things about their government. i mean, i can understand not tolerating "excessive" complaints about one's character or folk who find it appropriate to conduct "personal insults". yes i agree, those kinds of things should not be tolerated.

but this is america and this is a sports message board. i don't think its appropriate to restrict comments just because they may not speak favorably of our facilities or coaches, "if its true". i don't generally make negative comments regarding any of our coaches. but for those who do, they should not be restricted from doing so as long as their comments do not attack the character of the coach and is not generally "excessive" or "over the top". and i definitely don't believe in "publicly" calling for a coach's firing.

but even the best college coaches across the country at all levels get "criticized" by fans. i mean, it comes with the territory of being ncaa coaches and they should know that. roy williams and mike krzyzewski are both "hall of fame" coaches, yet they often get criticized by their fans or opposing fans. so its not unusual for coaches to get criticized, especially if they're losing a bunch of games. don't get me wrong, i'm not advocating folks to criticize our coaches. but i believe in their right to do so as long as its not "over the top".

sure, by all means let's try to keep bdv a very respectful message board, i get that. however, to only allow favorable comments but not allow unfavorable comments is not the way to go in my opinion. there must be "balance", we need to hear both sides. if all we hear are positive comments, then we'll likely be "misled" to believe everything is positive which sets folks up for a bitter disappointment when they find out the "truth".

it is not a good idea to only hear just one point of view...

[DOOMS]

oleschool, just do it in your own thread. It's that simple. The man wants to keep the thread to the basic topic of the signees and nothing more. Let him.

If you or somebody else wants to complain about something outside of the signees, start your own thread. Please reserve any further commenting for a thread you start as opposed to responding to this one and taking us away from the topic that durhamgsoaggie has so graciously started for us.

[oleschoolaggie]

dooms, its just my opinion. other than facilities, it doesn't even apply to me. i'm done. but you bring up a very good suggestion. from now on i'll put similar disclaimers in threads i start. maybe that will clean up the kind of negative comments that i don't like...

[oleschoolaggie]

Jul 17, 2017 12:52:49 GMT -5 durhamgsoaggie said:

Jul 17, 2017 12:27:32 GMT -5 oleschoolaggie said:

look, its well known on this message board that i often complain about the lack of facility enhancements at corbett center. however, i don't comment about the hiring or firing of coaches, nor do i attack the ad/chancellor. generally, i praise our coaches and our admins.

but that being stated, we don't live in north korea or iran where folk are forbidden to say negative things about their government. i mean, i can understand not tolerating "excessive" complaints about one's character or folk who find it appropriate to conduct "personal insults". yes i agree, those kinds of things should not be tolerated.

but this is america and this is a sports message board. i don't think its appropriate to restrict comments just because they may not speak favorably of our facilities or coaches, "if its true". i don't generally make negative comments regarding any of our coaches. but for those who do, they should not be restricted from doing so as long as their comments do not attack the character of the coach and is not generally "excessive" or "over the top". and i definitely don't believe in "publicly" calling for a coach's firing.

but even the best college coaches across the country at all levels get "criticized" by fans. i mean, it comes with the territory of being ncaa coaches and they should know that. roy williams and mike krzyzewski are both "hall of fame" coaches, yet they often get criticized by their fans or opposing fans. so its not unusual for coaches to get criticized, especially if they're losing a bunch of games. don't get me wrong, i'm not advocating folks to criticize our coaches. but i believe in their right to do so as long as its not "over the top".

sure, by all means let's try to keep bdv a very respectful message board, i get that. however, to only allow favorable comments but not allow unfavorable comments is not the way to go in my opinion. there must be "balance", we need to hear both sides. if all we hear are positive comments, then we'll likely be "misled" to believe everything is positive which sets folks up for a bitter disappointment when they find out the "truth".

it is not a good idea to only hear just one point of view...

OSA.... no one is saying that you can't crtique or criticize anyone. It's a free country and we can say what we want.

But those critiques don't have to be given every time we touch certain topics. My vision for these types of threads is to have a place where someone outside of the BDV family can come in and just see who we have coming in free from the other noise. And there is a value to that for BDV's growth, whether we can see that immediately or not.

I believe I'm well within my rights to make a courtesy request (not a demand) on threads like these that I've created for the good of everybody (and spend a good bit of time building for both in these cases). As I've stated before... there are dozens of other threads where we've critiqued our coaches (and should). I'm just attempting to ask people (as politely as possible) to not do it on these types of threads.

It's not always about "us" and "how we feel" about the topic. It's a bit of a changeup for us to do this at times... but one that I think can serve BDV well in the future if we're mature enough to understand the purpose and handle it.

durham, i know you have good intentions and i personally appreciate that and respect that. you're a good dude. but like i said, other than facilities, the rest of your request does not even apply to me. i don't like folk attacking our coaches as much as you don't, so i'm cool with it.

just expressing my opinion though, that's all. i don't think i violated your request by doing so. i don't like negativity either, but sometimes we need "balance"...