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Post by bluehaze on Mar 25, 2016 6:51:43 GMT -5
This is where I question the decision to play for the Celebration Bowl vs. the NCAA playoffs for the MEAC and SWAC. All the financials point towards the CB. But players with higher levels of talent may not be willing to settle for playing in the CB. Just a thought. Apples and Oranges. He didn't go to a school playing in the NCAA playoffs. He went FBS to play for a Bowl.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Mar 25, 2016 7:15:38 GMT -5
This is where I question the decision to play for the Celebration Bowl vs. the NCAA playoffs for the MEAC and SWAC. All the financials point towards the CB. But players with higher levels of talent may not be willing to settle for playing in the CB. Just a thought. Apples and Oranges. He didn't go to a school playing in the NCAA playoffs. He went FBS to play for a Bowl. I disagree. The ACC championship has been in the BCS championship each of the last 2 years. So, yes, Hendon has a true national championship to play for at Va. Tech.
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Post by bluehaze on Mar 25, 2016 8:27:04 GMT -5
Apples and Oranges. He didn't go to a school playing in the NCAA playoffs. He went FBS to play for a Bowl. I disagree. The ACC championship has been in the BCS championship each of the last 2 years. So, yes, Hendon has a true national championship to play for at Va. Tech. But again, Hendon is going to the FBS, not to a school in the CAA or the Big South. The Celebration Bowl or the NCAA FCS Playoffs was not a consideration or factor in his decision.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 25, 2016 8:39:04 GMT -5
I disagree. The ACC championship has been in the BCS championship each of the last 2 years. So, yes, Hendon has a true national championship to play for at Va. Tech. But again, Hendon is going to the FBS, not to a school in the CAA or the Big South. The Celebration Bowl or the NCAA FCS Playoffs was not a consideration or factor in his decision. i kinda see durham’s point. basically the celebration bowl is the “lowest level of competition” for postseason play at the fcs level, that’s what hooker would be striving for had he chose a&t. whereas, playing at “any” fbs school is a higher level of competition for hooker whether his team goes to a postseason bowl or not. most athletes always want to compete against the best level of competition possible. in our case, the cb is the “lowest” level of competition for postseason play at the d1 level, whether its fcs or fbs. not all bowl games are created equal. just because the cb is technically a bowl game doesn’t mean it equates to fbs bowl games...
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Post by bigpeete1 on Mar 25, 2016 8:41:20 GMT -5
GOOD CHOICE, GOOD LUCK AND YOU'LL ALWAYS BE LOVE BY THE AGGIES FAMILY
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 25, 2016 9:15:22 GMT -5
i’m just glad that our football program has been restored to the point where its not an embarrassment for the kid to list a&t as one of his final choices. given the success we’ve had since coach broadway arrived, most folks at least felt that there was a slim possibility that he’d pick a&t. but had we still been struggling under that fobbs/lee era, i don’t think no one would’ve remotely taken a&t being on his list seriously...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 25, 2016 9:58:09 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with Celebration Bowl vs FCS playoffs. This has to do with FBS vs FCS. He wants to play against the best...If A&T was still in the FCS playoffs, he would have still chosen VA Tech. The Celebration Bowl remains a wise decision for our conference and for us to strive to be in annually. Va Tech was a good decision for Hooker....nothing more, nothing less, as far as all of this is concerned.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Mar 25, 2016 11:17:10 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with Celebration Bowl vs FCS playoffs. This has to do with FBS vs FCS. He wants to play against the best...If A&T was still in the FCS playoffs, he would have still chosen VA Tech. The Celebration Bowl remains a wise decision for our conference and for us to strive to be in annually. Va Tech was a good decision for Hooker....nothing more, nothing less, as far as all of this is concerned. I hear you. That said.... If I match this up with your concern about top-level student-athletes continuing to shun HBCUs, then we're really a dog chasing our tail. The only athletics draw we have over the PWIs is ownership and pride in our institutions. And that level of consciousness isn't ingrained into our youth. If I think about it too long.... it honestly becomes a bit disheartening.
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Post by aggieepower1990 on Mar 25, 2016 13:12:43 GMT -5
Saabman, No BS here about the attendance at the Orange Bowl. I was shocked myself. How many African-Americans to estimate were in the Orange Bowl...5000....10000? Even if my 1k estimate was off by 300%, it's still less than 3000 African-Americans in attendance. No need to sensationalize facts about attendance here, it's just an observation. My 15 year old son made the same observation that has helped sway him towards an HBCU. An interesting comparison would be the total no. of African-Americans that attended ALL the FBS bowls vs the CB attendance of 35000. Outside of making tons of money for PWCs, African-Americans really have not penetrated that culture, minimal African-American presidents and head coaches at PWCs. .....just a mestter of fact. I wish I were wrong and BSing.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 25, 2016 18:26:22 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with Celebration Bowl vs FCS playoffs. This has to do with FBS vs FCS. He wants to play against the best...If A&T was still in the FCS playoffs, he would have still chosen VA Tech. The Celebration Bowl remains a wise decision for our conference and for us to strive to be in annually. Va Tech was a good decision for Hooker....nothing more, nothing less, as far as all of this is concerned. I hear you. That said.... If I match this up with your concern about top-level student-athletes continuing to shun HBCUs, then we're really a dog chasing our tail. The only athletics draw we have over the PWIs is ownership and pride in our institutions. And that level of consciousness isn't ingrained into our youth. If I think about it too long.... it honestly becomes a bit disheartening. I hear you too....in fact, as I was posting that last post, I was contemplating if I was being hypocritical with my posts. Football is just a different beast. The FCS vs FBS distinction is just too great to discredit. However, when it comes to other sports where we are theoretically competing on the same level, we have to make hay. Losing recruits to High Point or other area DI schools on our level can't be accepted. Outside of football, we have to do a better job marketing ourselves as a legitimate DI program. When I posted the Martin twins transferring from NC State, my whole goal with that post was to convince our coaching staff to give these dudes (and their family) a call to let them know we're interested. I'm gonna be sick if they end up at a school like Elon, Campbell or UNCG. We gotta stop losing dudes to schools like this. Personally, I just get the sense we don't even reach out to players like this. I just think we view these dudes as "too good for us." Dudes ain't coming to us unless we make attempts to reach out to them. To me, recruiting players is like finding coaches. If there are some people we like, we need to be more aggressive in our courtship for them....
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Post by saabman on Mar 25, 2016 19:35:57 GMT -5
Saabman, No BS here about the attendance at the Orange Bowl. I was shocked myself. How many African-Americans to estimate were in the Orange Bowl...5000....10000? Even if my 1k estimate was off by 300%, it's still less than 3000 African-Americans in attendance. No need to sensationalize facts about attendance here, it's just an observation. My 15 year old son made the same observation that has helped sway him towards an HBCU. An interesting comparison would be the total no. of African-Americans that attended ALL the FBS bowls vs the CB attendance of 35000. Outside of making tons of money for PWCs, African-Americans really have not penetrated that culture, minimal African-American presidents and head coaches at PWCs. .....just a mestter of fact. I wish I were wrong and BSing. No trust me I understand what you or saying. But using Clemson's game as an example for African-American turn out, to me that was not the right example. Because for one yes they have a mostly African-American team but Clemson is a PWCs and your going to have more whites then blacks (other then true African-American football fans and the players families ) There is no reason for African-Americans to turn out for Clemson or any other white school. The only reason I was there was because my Nephew # 48 was playing. Because there or a few of us that enjoy HBCU Football or sports in general and will attend there events, and you also have the true African-American Football fans but you also have African-American fans that could careless about white college football and would prefer to go to and HBCU game..lol Also " African-Americans really have not penetrated that culture" I have to disagree with that statement . What I see is African-American parents and others that have some level of influence over there kids that or pushing African-American Kids away from attending HBCU Institutions, the same Institutions that provided them with there education. That is the problem that we African-Americans or having, because we or pushing African-Americans kids to embrace there Culture and pushing HBCU Institutions and there Culture into the back round.
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Post by aggieepower1990 on Mar 25, 2016 21:07:54 GMT -5
Saabman I think we're on the same page about African Americans penetrating PWC culture as general studentbody graduates, athletes or otherwise. #48 for Clemson is nothing less than a beast on the D-line at the FBS level. I remember the player program said he was from Greensboro.
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Post by saabman on Mar 25, 2016 21:35:04 GMT -5
Saabman I think we're on the same page about African Americans penetrating PWC culture as general studentbody graduates, athletes or otherwise. #48 for Clemson is nothing less than a beast on the D-line at the FBS level. I remember the player program said he was from Greensboro. Yes his Mom and Dad where both A&T grads. His Dad past on last summer and it did not Hit D.J. until the beginning of the football season so he left the team to get his head together and I must say coach Swinney was there for him and welcomed him back when he was ready to return ( he even offered D.J. his starting job back but D.J. made the choice to work his way back into the starting line up, and became one of the captains before the season was over with. Also he walked in 3 years gradating in Dec. I must say he is a fine, fine young man.
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Post by aggieforlife on Apr 15, 2018 2:23:41 GMT -5
I see Va.Tech had there Spring Game Saturday.It appear the transfer from Kanas had a great game 260 yards plus in the air. HOOKER did not play a lot only 42 yards passing The Kanas transfer maybe 2nd on depth chart and could push for starting job, barring injury it maybe a while for Hooker to see the field.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 15, 2018 8:43:07 GMT -5
I see Va.Tech had there Spring Game Saturday.It appear the transfer from Kanas had a great game 260 yards plus in the air. HOOKER did not play a lot only 42 yards passing The Kanas transfer maybe 2nd on depth chart and could push for starting job, barring injury it maybe a while for Hooker to see the field. Let the kid breath. He is not coming here. Worry about the kids we have on our current roster.
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