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Post by SixtiesAggie on Feb 17, 2016 2:02:45 GMT -5
IMO, as long as we consistently attend/support (40k+), the game will be fine. The test is when lower tier teams (small enrollment, less name recognition, etc) play year after year. If the numbers drop through a "minimum threshold", its gone. A&T and Alcorn set the standard. Can that level of performance be sustained? That's what the commissioners need to press upon. AGREE!!!! If HBCUs don't sell the CB to its supporters, and put more than 40-45K into those seats, it will die just as the other bowls did in previous years. It has to be sold as a must attend event, and will have to draw from not just their alums and students, but the general populace as well.
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Post by DECKS on Feb 17, 2016 7:36:24 GMT -5
Celebration Bowl sucess depends upon continuing to get good tv ratings. Game attendance is almost irrelevant.
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Post by bluehaze on Feb 17, 2016 7:59:19 GMT -5
ABC is not going to have an empty stadium on tv. If the attendance drops, the game will be moved to ESPNU, the ratings will drop and the game will go away.
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Post by saabman on Feb 17, 2016 9:29:19 GMT -5
ABC is not going to have an empty stadium on tv. If the attendance drops, the game will be moved to ESPNU, the ratings will drop and the game will go away. Amen
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Post by Maxell on Feb 17, 2016 11:01:42 GMT -5
ABC is not going to have an empty stadium on tv. If the attendance drops, the game will be moved to ESPNU, the ratings will drop and the game will go away. Amen Yep, remember the FCS championship game is on ESPN2.
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Post by DECKS on Feb 17, 2016 13:20:10 GMT -5
ABC is not going to have an empty stadium on tv. If the attendance drops, the game will be moved to ESPNU, the ratings will drop and the game will go away. Most of the bowl games are played in half empty stadiums. Heck, look at the MEAC/SWAC Challenge. It doesn't draw flies but folks watch on tv. Our game vs AAMU only attracted an attendance of 8,000 people but 700k watched the espn broadcast. That's the only reason why that game continues and is a large reason why the Celebration Bowl was created. Lastly, the part about attendance being irrelevant to espn came directly from Hilton.
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Post by bluehaze on Feb 17, 2016 14:54:13 GMT -5
There isn't a $2 million purse and associated expenses of being on ABC for the challenge. I agree that is just a programming slot. They can easily put another game in the Celebration Bowl slot and we are left holding the bag.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Feb 17, 2016 17:57:50 GMT -5
The success of the Celebration Bowl starts with ESPN agreeing to fund the game and keep it on National TV. Then they have to find a signature sponsor like the Air Force Reserve. And finally we have got to put butts in the seats. If Savannah State and Mississippi Valley end up playing in this game, that could really impact all three factors but that's a long shot. I think over the next five years one of the big boys (Cookman, A&T, SCSU or NCCU) will do their part to bring out fans and sponsors.
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Post by saabman on Feb 17, 2016 20:01:34 GMT -5
The success of the Celebration Bowl starts with ESPN agreeing to fund the game and keep it on National TV. Then they have to find a signature sponsor like the Air Force Reserve. And finally we have got to put butts in the seats. If Savannah State and Mississippi Valley end up playing in this game, that could really impact all three factors but that's a long shot. I think over the next five years one of the big boys (Cookman, A&T, SCSU or NCCU) will do their part to bring out fans and sponsors. "If Savannah State and Mississippi Valley end up playing in this game, that could really impact all three factors " Don't start making generalizations Let's just keep things real here Now if you would have picked MEAC teams like DSU, MSU or Howard U, HU or NSU because of there location and distance from Ga , I could see your concerns But to be truthful I do not think there would be that much of a drop off between to southern teams and there fans to make that jump to the ATL for that game As much as I hate to say this, I know for a fact that the SWAC schools and there fans will hold up there end who ever there representative is but I do have a big ? and concern about the MEAC fans being picky when it comes to there representative if it is not one of the before named schools (Cookman, A&T, SCSU or NCCU)
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Post by Maxell on Feb 17, 2016 21:08:04 GMT -5
The trick is to develop a conference identity. That's difficult. But I think you could brand the MEAC as hard-nosed and fundamentally sound vs SWAC being gunslingers. I think that brand identity also extends to the respective bands as well. If we can embrance an identity such as that for the conference, I might get excited about Hampton or Norfolk vs the SWAC for example. Right now we don't care that much about each other from a conference PRIDE perspective.
As far as Savannah and MVSU I just can't see them winning a conference championship in the next five years so that is a moot point. They don't have the coaching, the players or the resources.
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Post by saabman on Feb 17, 2016 21:45:16 GMT -5
The trick is to develop a conference identity. That's difficult. But I think you could brand the MEAC as hard-nosed and fundamentally sound vs SWAC being gunslingers. I think that brand identity also extends to the respective bands as well. If we can embrance an identity such as that for the conference, I might get excited about Hampton or Norfolk vs the SWAC for example. Right now we don't care that much about each other from a conference PRIDE perspective. As far as Savannah and MVSU I just can't see them winning a conference championship in the next five years so that is a moot point. They don't have the coaching, the players or the resources. I agree with most of your statement but again I hate to say this The SWAC I must say as far as Conference Pride goes , They roll with there Conference champs Now do not miss understand what I am saying because I'm a Aggie all the way but when it comes to a game/CB in the Deep South,( ATL) in this case The SWAC will show up and Rap for there champion regardless of who it is. What worries me is will the MEAC do the same if it is not A&T, SCSU, BCU or NCCU ??
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Post by bseballaggie on Feb 18, 2016 2:14:25 GMT -5
Another note to consider, ABC was scheduled to break away from the game around the third Quarter, to cover another game but Cohen!!!....and both teams continued to turn it up.
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Post by Maxell on Feb 18, 2016 13:03:22 GMT -5
Another note to consider, ABC was scheduled to break away from the game around the third Quarter, to cover another game but Cohen!!!....and both teams continued to turn it up. link?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 18, 2016 13:47:55 GMT -5
As far as Savannah and MVSU I just can't see them winning a conference championship in the next five years so that is a moot point. They don't have the coaching, the players or the resources. given the “numerous” number of fbs money games that ssu plays, i find it difficult to believe that they lack resources. ssu plays more money games on average per year than any other meac team except maybe for scsu. they often play 2 or 3 money games per season, they’re probably bringing in close to a million dollars per year. but where are they spending all of that money? certainly not on the football program...
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Post by saabman on Feb 18, 2016 17:38:52 GMT -5
As far as Savannah and MVSU I just can't see them winning a conference championship in the next five years so that is a moot point. They don't have the coaching, the players or the resources. given the “numerous” number of fbs money games that ssu plays, i find it difficult to believe that they lack resources. ssu plays more money games on average per year than any other meac team except maybe for scsu. they often play 2 or 3 money games per season, they’re probably bringing in close to a million dollars per year. but where are they spending all of that money? certainly not on the football program... And with the AD that they have now they will not be spending any money on there Football team 8-)and most likely any of there sports programs at all
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