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Post by bluehaze on May 25, 2015 17:05:11 GMT -5
Getting Cohen more touches out of the passing game is one thing, making him a jack of all trades is another. It's Broadway's job to win games, not playing Cohen on special teams to get him hurt.
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Post by Aggie Monster on May 25, 2015 17:46:42 GMT -5
Cohen is a RB. Now if they want to showcase him in other positions, if its within the current offense then fine, but no need to get all fancy here. He is a beast where he is at. He will be even more of a beast without the read option stuff.
The NFL is 2 years away, and trust me if he is worthy he will make a roster. Is he a Maurice Hicks type talent? I think so. Hicks didn't have to do all that stuff while he was at A&T to get to the NFL. He just ran that rock! Thats all Cohen has to do. A few 300 yard games and he'll get his shot.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on May 25, 2015 18:47:31 GMT -5
Do you really want Cohen to replace McRae returning kick offs and Gardin returning punts? Then get 20-30 touches from scrimmage ? There are players who do those things better than Cohen or are just as good. If he got hurt then it would be said he was doing too much. My statement is not about Cohen replacing McRae or Gardin. Let's be real hear if Cohen is considering going to the NFL it will not be as a RB. What I am just pointing out is Cohen has to become more involved in the offense then just as a runner. Us having a new OC and system may provide opportunities for Cohen to flourish and add other tools to his already impressive resume. If he is considering going to the show. I'll have to disagree with that one. In the new NFL, Tarik Cohen at 5'6", 180 lbs can play a significant role as a RB. I'm a Carolina Panthers fan.... I would love to have a guy like Tarik Cohen to get 5-6 carries a game and be my 3rd down back. Would I have Tarik doing special teams full time? Of course not.... but special situations, like, say, the UNC game... or at South Carolina State.... I want the ball in the hands of my best player as much as possible... Kinda like when Darrell Green returned the punt for a TD against Chicago in the 1987 playoffs when they had other returners. But if our OL has a decent showing... it won't surprise me if Tarik gets 30 touches against UNC, including in the return game. If we are really trying to make our program take off... Tarik needs to have a game to remember down in Chapel Hill so we can start getting him in the draft conversation. We do that, win the MEAC and the Celebration Bowl.... that would be a heck of a year....
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Post by KidHeartless on May 25, 2015 18:51:11 GMT -5
...Sproles, Danny Woodhead, Welker....numerous short guy examples...many at RB
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Post by Aggie One on May 25, 2015 19:17:54 GMT -5
A modern day Dave Meggett.
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Post by saabman on May 25, 2015 20:22:12 GMT -5
...Sproles, Danny Woodhead, Welker....numerous short guy examples...many at RB Sproles 190lbs also return kicks and punts in college, Woodhead also return kicks and punts in college along with his running back duties. Welker never played RB was the slot receiver and return kicks and punts in college . His Heights just fine. After seeing him up close I find it hard to beleave that he is anything close to 180lbs at most 170 and that's being generous. I do see the young man playing in the NFL . Darren Wolfe lasted five seasons with the Chicago Bears listed as a running back but its main duty was to return kicks and punts wolf only weighed hundred sixty five pounds when he was drafted out of Eastern Michigan I think (if I'm not mistaken) but wolf not only ran the ball but was it valuable receiver downfield in their passing game. that's all I'm saying
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Post by Aggie Monster on May 26, 2015 8:32:41 GMT -5
They listed Warrick Dunn at 5'9. That was a stretch. He had a long nfl career.
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Post by JeffAggieFan on May 26, 2015 9:02:33 GMT -5
Eric Weems from Bethune Cookman is about 5'9. He3 played a lot of WR but he did play RB a little but he 5'9 and 195.
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Post by saabman on May 26, 2015 9:38:41 GMT -5
They listed Warrick Dunn at 5'9. That was a stretch. He had a long nfl career. Again I state his height is not in question. it's his weight or lack thereof to be a running back in the NFL. Would you draft a hundred and seventy pounds running back when you can draft a 220 pound running back with the same speed or faster and is proven in the passing game and has played better competition.Don't Get me wrwrong I see a future for the Kid in the show no doubt but not at the position that he is playing in college. I see the kid as a Wes Welker type of player.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 26, 2015 9:59:26 GMT -5
Eric Weems from Bethune Cookman is about 5'9. He3 played a lot of WR but he did play RB a little but he 5'9 and 195. thanks jeff, i was trying to think of his name. he made a name for himself in the nfl off of special teams...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 26, 2015 10:14:27 GMT -5
Is he a Maurice Hicks type talent? I think so. Hicks didn't have to do all that stuff while he was at A&T to get to the NFL. He just ran that rock! Thats all Cohen has to do. A few 300 yard games and he'll get his shot. i agree, monster. however, i think cohen is a different type of back than hicks was. but you’re right, hicks became a “beast” at returning kicks in the nfl and he didn’t do too much of that at a&t. i think i’m on the same page as you, i think cohen is “athletic” enough to make adjustments at the next level to return kicks and punts. however, i would put him in the slot occasionally so that he can gain some experience running routes and catching passes down field. i think cohen is a better fit to play the slot at the next level than hicks was. clearly cohen has excellent hands and he can make you “miss” in the open field better than hicks, in my opinion. that’s why i think he’d excel in the slot at the next level. bottom line, let’s not over work the guy. if he stays healthy and continues to put up the kind of numbers he’s been putting up, he’ll get a shot at the next level. his speed and stats will at least get him a serious look from the scouts. but i’m not so sure if he will get drafted only because the nfl has now “de-emphasized” the rb position in favor of the passing game. we’re now seeing wr’s drafted in the top 10 whereas in the past, that used to be rb’s. so to me, the more cohen can show the ability to run routes and catch passes, the more likely he will be drafted...
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Post by pj on May 26, 2015 11:51:50 GMT -5
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Post by KidHeartless on May 26, 2015 12:30:06 GMT -5
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Post by saabman on May 26, 2015 12:32:56 GMT -5
i agree, monster. however, i think cohen is a different type of back than hicks was. but you’re right, hicks became a “beast” at returning kicks in the nfl and he didn’t do too much of that at a&t. i think i’m on the same page as you, i think cohen is “athletic” enough to make adjustments at the next level to return kicks and punts. however, i would put him in the slot occasionally so that he can gain some experience running routes and catching passes down field. i think cohen is a better fit to play the slot at the next level than hicks was. clearly cohen has excellent hands and he can make you “miss” in the open field better than hicks, in my opinion. that’s why i think he’d excel in the slot at the next level. bottom line, let’s not over work the guy. if he stays healthy and continues to put up the kind of numbers he’s been putting up, he’ll get a shot at the next level. his speed and stats will at least get him a serious look from the scouts. but i’m not so sure if he will get drafted only because the nfl has now “de-emphasized” the rb position in favor of the passing game. we’re now seeing wr’s drafted in the top 10 whereas in the past, that used to be rb’s. so to me, the more cohen can show the ability to run routes and catch passes, the more likely he will be drafted... I cannot speak on mo Hicks because I never had the opportunity to see him play. but I can speak on Sproles,Woodhead, and Welker having scene them play in college. And of those three Cohan reminds me the most Welker . I also totally agree he should be more involved in the passing game . I would love to see him run from the slot in some formations.
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Post by KidHeartless on May 26, 2015 12:35:46 GMT -5
if we still had Cartwright(sp)......it'd be the perfect setup....similar to a McCoy & Sproles in the backfield at the same time....then have one split out
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