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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Apr 30, 2015 13:49:50 GMT -5
Decks is correct the rule is pretty clear cut.....If Hemingway is working out with old Coaches who are know at ODU that makes me nerves
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Post by ohsixrain on Apr 30, 2015 14:12:38 GMT -5
Decks is correct the rule is pretty clear cut.....If Hemingway is working out with old Coaches who are know at ODU that makes me nerves This is a valid concern. I'm trying to understand where our confidence in us getting him is coming from...? From the looks of things, I'd say ODU would be tops on his list, especially if he's working out with them. Thoughts...anybody?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 30, 2015 14:27:46 GMT -5
Decks is correct the rule is pretty clear cut.....If Hemingway is working out with old Coaches who are know at ODU that makes me nerves This is a valid concern. I'm trying to understand where our confidence in us getting him is coming from...? From the looks of things, I'd say ODU would be tops on his list, especially if he's working out with them. Thoughts...anybody? i'm not too nervous because bringing him in will be frosting on our cake, its not like we had him in the first place. we have nothing to lose by going after him, but plenty to gain if we get him. besides, he probably realizes that uconn was not a good fit for him in terms of playing time and odu would be no different. i did a little research and he only started 1 game in 2 years at uconn, and that 1 game he started was because the starter got injured. besides, aggiepower has a lot of details relative to what's going on with this kid. so if he says we're at the top of the list, then i believe him. having 3 winning seasons in a row and a championship to boot gives me more confidence that he'll wind up in aggie blue and gold. also, i'm not clear on the transfer requirements for a kid transferring from an fbs school to another fbs school. i'm not sure that the year he didn't attend school counts for the 1 year he needs to sit out when transferring from an fbs school (uconn) to another fbs school (odu). i "vaguely" recall (but could be wrong) that the 1 year he sits out when transferring from an fbs to another fbs, he must be enrolled in college. but again, i could be wrong...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 30, 2015 14:49:26 GMT -5
also, i'm not clear on the transfer requirements for a kid transferring from an fbs school to another fbs school. i'm not sure that the year he didn't attend school counts for the 1 year he needs to sit out when transferring from an fbs school (uconn) to another fbs school (odu). i "vaguely" recall (but could be wrong) that the 1 year he sits out when transferring from an fbs to another fbs, he must be enrolled in college. but again, i could be wrong... did a little research and i think my vague memory was correct. basically, if he transfers from uconn to odu (both are fbs schools), he would lose a year of eligibility because the rules require fbs to fbs transfers to spend 1 year "in residence" at the school they're transferring to (in this case that's odu) before they become eligible for competition. well since he has already used up 3 out of 5 years of eligibility, sitting out another year while enrolled at odu would cost him another year of eligibility because you're only given 5 years to compete 4 years. so that's why odu should not be a major concern, he could only play 1 year there. whereas, there are no requirements to sit out a year when transferring from an fbs (uconn) to an fcs (a&t), so he would have 2 years of eligibility at a&t. here's a summary of the info i dug up on the internet... Q: If I transfer to another four-year institution, will I immediately be eligible?
The general rule for all student-athletes transferring from one four-year institution to another four-year institution is that they must spend one academic year "in residence" at the school to which they transfer before they may be eligible for competition. However, you may be eligible immediately upon transfer if you meet one of several transfer exceptions.
The most common transfer exception is the One-Time Transfer Exception. To be eligible to use this exception:
a. A student-athlete must be transferring to another four-year institution to participate in sports other than Division I basketball, Division I men's ice hockey and Division I football (unless the student-athlete is transferring from Division IA to Division I-AA);
b. The student-athlete's first transfer from one four-year college to another four-year college;
c. The student-athlete must have been eligible academically had he or she remained at their previous institution;
d. The student-athlete must obtain a written release from the current institution stating that they have no objection to the student-athlete's use of the exception.
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Post by ohsixrain on Apr 30, 2015 14:57:07 GMT -5
Makes sense Oleschool...thanks. Is he talented enough to come in and start right away at A&T, or does anybody know?
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Post by Aggie One on Apr 30, 2015 15:13:30 GMT -5
Being completely away from the game for two years? He'll have to earn it.
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Post by AggieGroove on Apr 30, 2015 15:13:55 GMT -5
Well, is he at A&T or not? is he the kid from UCONN?
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Apr 30, 2015 16:03:12 GMT -5
Players moving down do not have to sit out a year. That's why I'm hoping we can get a couple of more fbs transfers. Sent from my SM-N910P using proboards[/quot The sabbaticals was a good move on his part because otherwise he would have to sit out one year. NCAA rules state that if the athlete is moving from one division 1 school to another division 1 school he would have to sit out 1 season. The sabbatical negated that rule thereby giving him two years of eligibility to play football for us. All Division 1 programs fall under the same 4 of 4 rule. BCS & FBS are Division 1 programs. it is good to see got the young man had the state of mind to take a sabbatical which for prevented him from having to lose a year of eligibility. I wish him luck. His clock is still ticking whether he sat out a year or not...
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Apr 30, 2015 16:09:53 GMT -5
So... are you implying that Donovahn Jones will be sitting out this year because he's transferring from Minnesota (FBS) to A&T (FCS) because both are considered Division I? naw, i think saabman has it wrong and decks has it right. you can move down from fbs to fcs without sitting out a year. however, for d1 basketball, a player from any fbs school that transfers to an fcs school would have to sit out a year because there is no "fcs" in basketball, everybody at the d1 level plays at the same level in basketball. relative to d1 schools, it only applies to football that a guy can transfer from an fbs/bcs school to an fcs school and play immediately without sitting out a year. however, i believe saabman is correct relative to years of eligibility. i think athletes are allowed 5 years to complete 4 years of eligibility. dude has already "redshirted" one year at uconn and played 2 years at uconn. so technically, had he remained in school another year without playing football, he would’ve only had 1 year of eligibility left. by not attending school for a year, he preserved 2 years of eligibilty... If he redshirted 1 year, played 2 years and sat 1 year ( no school), he has used 4 years of the 5 year window. In order for him to get an "extra" year, he would have to have 2 years of extenuating circumstances in order to qualify. Redshirt year would not count as an extenuating circumstance because it is considered under the student-athlete's control as would the year that he sat out unless some circumstances warranted something different... Eligibility starts from the time you first enter school as a full time student whether you use it or not. It does not stop when you stop...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 30, 2015 16:48:34 GMT -5
naw, i think saabman has it wrong and decks has it right. you can move down from fbs to fcs without sitting out a year. however, for d1 basketball, a player from any fbs school that transfers to an fcs school would have to sit out a year because there is no "fcs" in basketball, everybody at the d1 level plays at the same level in basketball. relative to d1 schools, it only applies to football that a guy can transfer from an fbs/bcs school to an fcs school and play immediately without sitting out a year. however, i believe saabman is correct relative to years of eligibility. i think athletes are allowed 5 years to complete 4 years of eligibility. dude has already "redshirted" one year at uconn and played 2 years at uconn. so technically, had he remained in school another year without playing football, he would’ve only had 1 year of eligibility left. by not attending school for a year, he preserved 2 years of eligibilty... If he redshirted 1 year, played 2 years and sat 1 year ( no school), he has used 4 years of the 5 year window. In order for him to get an "extra" year, he would have to have 2 years of extenuating circumstances in order to qualify. Redshirt year would not count as an extenuating circumstance because it is considered under the student-athlete's control as would the year that he sat out unless some circumstances warranted something different... Eligibility starts from the time you first enter school as a full time student whether you use it or not. It does not stop when you stop... thanks 4xl for that clarification! wow, i guess that means he only has 1 year to play at a&t. 1 and done, but that's okay, i still want him on our team. rivals had him rated as a 3 star athlete coming out of high school, so he has potential to contribute immediately if he can shake the rust off...
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Post by aggielaw on Apr 30, 2015 18:34:01 GMT -5
If you are considering A&T, I would imagine that a HBCU would be where you want to finish your career. However, there is another fine HBCU near ODU....
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Post by aggielaw on May 5, 2015 12:31:40 GMT -5
According to his Facebook account, he has a few local visits to make..Maynor... He is sending transcripts to A&T for Summer school.
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Post by saabman on May 5, 2015 13:18:26 GMT -5
If he redshirted 1 year, played 2 years and sat 1 year ( no school), he has used 4 years of the 5 year window. In order for him to get an "extra" year, he would have to have 2 years of extenuating circumstances in order to qualify. Redshirt year would not count as an extenuating circumstance because it is considered under the student-athlete's control as would the year that he sat out unless some circumstances warranted something different... Eligibility starts from the time you first enter school as a full time student whether you use it or not. It does not stop when you stop... thanks 4xl for that clarification! wow, i guess that means he only has 1 year to play at a&t. 1 and done, but that's okay, i still want him on our team. rivals had him rated as a 3 star athlete coming out of high school, so he has potential to contribute immediately if he can shake the rust off... The young man has 2 years eligibility.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 5, 2015 13:29:38 GMT -5
thanks 4xl for that clarification! wow, i guess that means he only has 1 year to play at a&t. 1 and done, but that's okay, i still want him on our team. rivals had him rated as a 3 star athlete coming out of high school, so he has potential to contribute immediately if he can shake the rust off... The young man has 2 years eligibility. nah, saabman. based on what 4xl explained, dude only has 1 year of eligibility remaining unless he got a waiver from the ncaa that grants him an extra year due to extenuating circumstances. he redshirted his first year at uconn then played 2 years and then he didn't attend school for 1 year, that's 4 of his 5 years of eligibility already consumed. according to 4xl, the guy has 5 years to complete 4 years of eligibility and the clock keeps ticking even when he's not attending school...
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Post by saabman on May 5, 2015 14:45:27 GMT -5
The young man has 2 years eligibility. nah, saabman. based on what 4xl explained, dude only has 1 year of eligibility remaining unless he got a waiver from the ncaa that grants him an extra extenuating circumstances. he redshirted his first year at uconn then played 2 years and then he didn't attend school for 1 year, that's 4 of his 5 years of eligibility already consumed. according to 4xl, the guy has 5 years to complete 4 years of eligibility and the clock keeps ticking even when he's not attending school... I must bow down and stand corrected laughing out loud. I talk to my man Ryan at the NCAA today and he informed me that 4X and you guys are correct even with the sabbatical he would only have one year remaining. But he informed me that if the individual had decided to drop to Division 2 that he would have two years remaining with the sabbatical. knowledge received than welcome laughing.
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