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Post by aggieblackie on Feb 16, 2015 11:00:42 GMT -5
Decks, be fair now. Coach Curtis Hunter did not have any Div. 1 experience. He was an assistant at A&T with a sub par coach.
He was hired really because he played at Carolina. Our AD at that time was merely filling in and did not do a good job of searching for an experienced coach.
Yes, we need a young coach and the Aggie brass need to get out of that thought that an older person is the answer.
There are plenty qualified young coaches out there that would kill to come here and coach. A&T need to take a chance and hire one. They took a chance on Cy and it has not worked out. By the way that President at Hampton fires coaches with winning records. He don't play.
As for Curtis Hunter he is doing good coaching high school basketball in Greensboro.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 16, 2015 11:36:04 GMT -5
It's been 2 days since I started this post. I'm just as disgusted today as I was 2 days ago. For the people out there who are still supportive of Cy getting another year, just give me an idea of what you think next season will be like under him...help me see the light. If you all know anything about me, my big word is PROGRESS. I didn't expect us to win the MEAC this year, but I was hoping for PROGRESS after last year. If anyone looks at this objectively, I just don't see where PROGRESS has occurred. I've heard reasons why people believe PROGRESS hasn't happened.....with all of that being said, these losses are getting ridiculous. The FAMU loss was frankly inexcusable. What made it worse was we started the game slow, and actually had to make the score respectable-looking at the end. An 0-23 team beat us soundly. I cannot accept this stuff. Doesn't it bother people like it bothers me that we lose some of the most embarassing games? Even though I hate it, I can halfway stomach losing to Central. I can halfway stomach losing to Norfolk. We got blown out at home to Coppin State (sickening). We lose to an 0-23 team (sickening). We're regressing at the season wanes (sickening). We haven't won a home game in a month......our DI record at home is 2-4. I believe I (we) have been fair to Cy. No one has spoken ill of him. You cannot lose 6 out of 7 games (including vs an 0-23 team) as the season ends and expect people to continue to support the program blindly. Look, if we make a miraculous turnaround and finish the year strongly, I'll eat crow, crow soup, crow casserole, pan-seared crow, crow fettucini, etc. I want to see him and the team win - I honestly do. It's just getting ridiculous. PROGRESS ----- IT'S YEAR 3; WHERE IS IT? I just don't think I'm asking much from a coach with 25+ years of coaching experience.....
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Post by saabman on Feb 16, 2015 11:57:11 GMT -5
It's been 2 days since I started this post. I'm just as disgusted today as I was 2 days ago. misr the people out there who are still supportive of Cy getting another year, just give me an idea of what you think next season will be like under him...help me see the light. If you all know anything about me, my big word is PROGRESS. I didn't expect us to win the MEAC this year, but I was hoping for PROGRESS after last year. If anyone looks at this objectively, I just don't see where PROGRESS has occurred. I've heard reasons why people believe PROGRESS hasn't happened.....with all of that being said, these losses are getting ridiculous. The FAMU loss was frankly inexcusable. What made it worse was we started the game slow, and actually had to make the score respectable-looking at the end. An 0-23 team beat us soundly. I cannot accept this stuff. Doesn't it bother people like it bothers me that we lose some of the most embarassing games? Even though I hate it, I can halfway stomach losing to Central. I can halfway stomach losing to Norfolk. We got blown out at home to Coppin State (sickening). We lose to an 0-23 team (sickening). We're regressing at the season wanes (sickening). We haven't won a home game in a month......our DI record at home is 2-4. I believe I (we) have been fair to Cy. No one has spoken ill of him. You cannot lose 6 out of 7 games (including vs an 0-23 team) as the season ends and expect people to continue to support the program blindly. Look, if we make a miraculous turnaround and finish the year strongly, I'll eat crow, crow soup, crow casserole, pan-seared crow, crow fettucini, etc. I want to see him and the team win - I honestly do. It's just getting ridiculous. PROGRESS ----- IT'S YEAR 3; WHERE IS IT? I just don't think I'm asking much from a coach with 25+ years of coaching experience..... [/qualso I feel you on that eating crow lol. I had to do it when we won the meac under Cy. You're a 100% right on this one. New Blood is needed, a new system is needed also. It's harder to turn a basketball team around because of the numbers their is little room for misstaks in vetting player's abilities . But I agree it's time for a change.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 12:44:34 GMT -5
It's been 2 days since I started this post. I'm just as disgusted today as I was 2 days ago. For the people out there who are still supportive of Cy getting another year, just give me an idea of what you think next season will be like under him...help me see the light. If you all know anything about me, my big word is PROGRESS. I didn't expect us to win the MEAC this year, but I was hoping for PROGRESS after last year. If anyone looks at this objectively, I just don't see where PROGRESS has occurred. I've heard reasons why people believe PROGRESS hasn't happened.....with all of that being said, these losses are getting ridiculous. The FAMU loss was frankly inexcusable. What made it worse was we started the game slow, and actually had to make the score respectable-looking at the end. An 0-23 team beat us soundly. I cannot accept this stuff. Doesn't it bother people like it bothers me that we lose some of the most embarassing games? Even though I hate it, I can halfway stomach losing to Central. I can halfway stomach losing to Norfolk. We got blown out at home to Coppin State (sickening). We lose to an 0-23 team (sickening). We're regressing at the season wanes (sickening). We haven't won a home game in a month......our DI record at home is 2-4. I believe I (we) have been fair to Cy. No one has spoken ill of him. You cannot lose 6 out of 7 games (including vs an 0-23 team) as the season ends and expect people to continue to support the program blindly. Look, if we make a miraculous turnaround and finish the year strongly, I'll eat crow, crow soup, crow casserole, pan-seared crow, crow fettucini, etc. I want to see him and the team win - I honestly do. It's just getting ridiculous. PROGRESS ----- IT'S YEAR 3; WHERE IS IT? I just don't think I'm asking much from a coach with 25+ years of coaching experience..... I will never be in favor of firing a man that lost his Mom and Wife in the same year. WGAS of wins and loses at this point & time?
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Post by scaggie09 on Feb 16, 2015 13:42:38 GMT -5
It's been 2 days since I started this post. I'm just as disgusted today as I was 2 days ago. For the people out there who are still supportive of Cy getting another year, just give me an idea of what you think next season will be like under him...help me see the light. If you all know anything about me, my big word is PROGRESS. I didn't expect us to win the MEAC this year, but I was hoping for PROGRESS after last year. If anyone looks at this objectively, I just don't see where PROGRESS has occurred. I've heard reasons why people believe PROGRESS hasn't happened.....with all of that being said, these losses are getting ridiculous. The FAMU loss was frankly inexcusable. What made it worse was we started the game slow, and actually had to make the score respectable-looking at the end. An 0-23 team beat us soundly. I cannot accept this stuff. Doesn't it bother people like it bothers me that we lose some of the most embarassing games? Even though I hate it, I can halfway stomach losing to Central. I can halfway stomach losing to Norfolk. We got blown out at home to Coppin State (sickening). We lose to an 0-23 team (sickening). We're regressing at the season wanes (sickening). We haven't won a home game in a month......our DI record at home is 2-4. I believe I (we) have been fair to Cy. No one has spoken ill of him. You cannot lose 6 out of 7 games (including vs an 0-23 team) as the season ends and expect people to continue to support the program blindly. Look, if we make a miraculous turnaround and finish the year strongly, I'll eat crow, crow soup, crow casserole, pan-seared crow, crow fettucini, etc. I want to see him and the team win - I honestly do. It's just getting ridiculous. PROGRESS ----- IT'S YEAR 3; WHERE IS IT? I just don't think I'm asking much from a coach with 25+ years of coaching experience..... I will never be in favor of firing a man that lost his Mom and Wife in the same year. WGAS of wins and loses at this point & time? Your argument would make sense if the things people are complaining about all started happening THIS year however that's not the case. You have to examine the entire body of work in a situation like this. Honestly speaking I think it is very tacky of some of you to even suggest that people are being insensitive towards Coach Cy and the things he has had to deal with. People here have been nothing less than supportive of him during those times. Also u want to know WGAS about W and Ls just take time out your schedule and view a game online or attend in person and tell me what's missing in the stands.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 16, 2015 14:13:15 GMT -5
When you lose loved ones, does it really change what plays you'd run on offense or defense? Does it change practic routines or habits? Did it affect the recruits he was able to get? From what everyone is saying, next year is the year where we're supposed to have a better team because of the recruits he got this past year. So wouldn't that suggest he was still doing his job during his personal tragedies? During the games I have seen, the coach has been just as engaged as he was when he first got here. He still has his chalk talk before his home games. Believe me, I feel sorry for him and the tragedies he's gone through......but have they really impacted his ability to coach? If your answer to the question is YES..... ......don't you believe players, his coaching staff and the athletic director would have sensed this? I have a hard time believing if the coach asked for a month, a few months, or even a season to grieve, he wouldn't have gotten it. I don't believe our AD would have been insensitive as to not grant such a request to him. Has anyone heard that he asked for a brief leave to deal with these personal issues? Again, I'm not trying to be insensitive on this subject, but I think we are putting too much into his personal issues. If I was the A.D., I probably would have given him time off, whether he wanted it or not. Right now, the basketball program is unravelling. It's getting straight up ugly at Corbett watching the empty seats and the double-digit losses pile up. You cannot excuse losing to an 0-23 team. There's nothing you can say to explain this one away. If anything, the team should be player harder for him, considering what has gone on with him. NOTHING IS WORKING.....
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 16, 2015 15:12:18 GMT -5
We are the laughingstock -ONCE again. It is truly, truly sad!!!!!!!
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Post by marchingband1969 on Feb 16, 2015 15:14:41 GMT -5
Let's keep emotions and sentiment out of this. Let's just look at the facts...this team has been bad for the past two years. If not for a "hot streak" at the end of Cy's first season, we would have three awful seasons. I know he has had some major personal issues so I'm not suggesting that we fire him but...I don't think we should allow him to coach this team next year. Give him an administrative job in the athletic department or AAF next year. This will give him time to figure out what he wants to do with the rest of his career and this will allow us to hire another coach. I have no clue who we should hire but if you ever want to salvage the A&T men's basketball program, it better be a winning coach. Most of the alumni, students and fans have written the A&T men's basketball program off. This team and program is a joke so we need someone, anyone to come in and rebuild this program and the alumni confidence.
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Post by aggierattler on Feb 16, 2015 15:19:32 GMT -5
^^^ I will say this: I was hoping that Coach Alexander would request a year sabbatical to work through the grief of losing both a wife and his mother in a short period of time. I think that everyone would understand his situation.
I talked to another former Aggie coach who lost his mother before the season some years ago, and he told me that he "honestly didn't feel like coaching." He told me that he went into a depression (that he didn't realize), had to get counseling and didn't really "come around" for a full year.
I lost my Dad in November of 2013 and it took me a while to "get it together." I even pulled out of working the 2014 NBA All-Star Weekend because I just wasn't up for it.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 16, 2015 15:59:33 GMT -5
^^^ I will say this: I was hoping that Coach Alexander would request a year sabbatical to work through the grief of losing both a wife and his mother in a short period of time. I think that everyone would understand his situation. I talked to another former Aggie coach who lost his mother before the season some years ago, and he told me that he "honestly didn't feel like coaching." He told me that he went into a depression (that he didn't realize), had to get counseling and didn't really "come around" for a full year. I lost my Dad in November of 2013 and it took me a while to "get it together." I even pulled out of working the 2014 NBA All-Star Weekend because I just wasn't up for it. I respect this post and my condolences..... Everyone handles grief differently. Some work to keep their mind off of things..... I stand by my last post though. I really haven't seen a difference in how our coach has conducted his affairs from November 2012 to now. No one has given a single indication that "he's different" or "he's changed" as a coach since his personal issues developed. For all I know, he could be in a deep depression privately, but no one has stated there's been a difference in the way he has approached his daily work schedule at A&T. That's why I say we cannot blame a 9-23 season last year and a 6-20 season this year on personal issues. Even his first year was average, and we were a senior-laden team. You just cannot lose almost 50 games in 2 years, let an 0-23 team beat you, lose continuously at home by double-digit margins.......and you're doing all of this with years of coaching experience. These aren't even bottom-of-the-barrel results we're seeing. I hate seeing this from him because he's a good guy, but the results we're getting are straight-up deplorable. I'm not really sure if we win another game this year. We might "avenge" our loss to FAMU at home, but I wouldn't be willing to put money on it. I really did not want things to go this badly for the 2014-15 season, but the reality of another poor, disappointing season is staring us right in the face.....
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Feb 16, 2015 16:01:05 GMT -5
Let's not forget APR...that has been on a gradual decline as well. That's the one thing Eaves did well. So, here we are in the same position 3 years later. It's unfortunate...because I know the coach has been through a lot of adversity the last year or so...but, this type of career is not kind to that at all. I'm not sure what the answer is or should be but, something has to change. To be fair.... the only season for Cy on the rolling 4-year average for APR so far is 2012-13. The other 3 years are Eaves' years. The extra points for the 6 seniors graduating will show up on next year's APR, which should be a good bit better because of it.
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Post by aggieblackie on Feb 16, 2015 16:37:11 GMT -5
Damn, quit making excuses for Cy. His program stinks!! Damn.
Our basketball program has stunk for years because of bad hires and Cy is one of them.
Time for a change this damn year!!!
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Post by Trueaggie on Feb 16, 2015 16:55:40 GMT -5
I agree
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Feb 16, 2015 17:23:09 GMT -5
The bad part is that the school will probably have no comment either way unless they take action. I would hope that end of the season we move on or release a statement saying he will be back and any contract extensions would be after evaluation of the 2016 season....I just hope we say something
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Post by noexcuses on Feb 16, 2015 18:58:32 GMT -5
^^^ I will say this: I was hoping that Coach Alexander would request a year sabbatical to work through the grief of losing both a wife and his mother in a short period of time. I think that everyone would understand his situation. I talked to another former Aggie coach who lost his mother before the season some years ago, and he told me that he "honestly didn't feel like coaching." He told me that he went into a depression (that he didn't realize), had to get counseling and didn't really "come around" for a full year. I lost my Dad in November of 2013 and it took me a while to "get it together." I even pulled out of working the 2014 NBA All-Star Weekend because I just wasn't up for it. Folks, Coach Alexander's grief issues should not enter into the evaluation of his RESULTS with the program Over Time. Someone made an Excellent point when they said... He was an Extremely experienced coach when we hired him,hence different expectations from what we are Getting. Regarding the recruits he has Lost- hoq many has Moten lost at nccu-I picked them since their entrance requirements are "similar" to ours. Unfortunately I don't tjink we have the $$$ to payoff the years left on his contract,so the program will have to SUFFER until his contract is up.
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