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Post by marchingband1969 on Dec 14, 2014 8:05:30 GMT -5
One thing North Dakota State shows you is that you can build a great football program at the FCS level. Now they've been able to do that because there's not a darn thing to do in the whole state of North Dakota except go to high school and college football events! A&T and most colleges on the east coast have to compete with other colleges and a million other distractions for fan support and dollars. But North Dakota State stayed focused on winning at that level and they've done a good job at it. What I wonder is when or if they will ever decide to move up to the next level. Looks like every school that has won football championships at that level eventually start planning to move up to the BCS. I guess the money and support it takes to build a championship FCS program is just as expensive as building a BCS program but without the "potential" financial reward of a BCS bowl game.
I think Coastal Carolina is "attempting" to do the same thing...focus on winning at the FCS level. I don't know if A&T is just trying to compete at that level or to be a champion at that level. There's a big difference between the two. We will need a lot more fan support, corporate support and the University's support if we want to win an FCS Championships. At this point I believe the fans (me included) are focused on just winning the MEAC (and beating NCCU, SC State and BCU) and the University is focused on maintaining our academic and financial foundation. Until we are all focused at winning a FCS Championship, I think we will continue to be one and done in the playoffs.
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Post by The Professor on Dec 14, 2014 12:06:57 GMT -5
You have to be good before you can be great. NDSU didn't just come from nowhere. They have a tradition of winning
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Post by captaggie on Dec 14, 2014 13:56:39 GMT -5
When Aggie fans' expectations match Aggie fans' dollars, we'll be national contenders.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Dec 14, 2014 14:39:50 GMT -5
When Aggie fans' expectations match Aggie fans' dollars, we'll be national contenders. Aggie fans always expect to win. But our donations don't match our expectations. If we didn't have high student fees underwriting our athletic programs we would have to drop back to DII! I think the AAF is the right step. As they get more experience and history I believe they will get more money coming in.
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Post by ohsixrain on Dec 15, 2014 9:57:42 GMT -5
Coastal Carolina blew an excellent opportunity on Saturday. I liken their situation ours when we played them, the game was there for the taking but, it was almost like the relaxed one second too long and in an instant, the game was taken from them. Those are the tough ones to lose but, their program is definitely going to be a force to reckon with. Oh, I almost forgot, Chattanooga has New Hampshire as well and let them off the hook the same was Coastal did N. Dakota St. Morale of the story: When you get a monster down, don't keep your foot on his throat, you cut his freaking head completely off.
As for us, I think we may could have gotten past Richmond with a good game on our part. However, I think Coastal would've beaten us soundly a second time around.
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Post by saabman on Dec 15, 2014 15:57:08 GMT -5
One thing North Dakota State shows you is that you can build a great football program at the FCS level. Now they've been able to do that because there's not a darn thing to do in the whole state of North Dakota except go to high school and college football events! A&T and most colleges on the east coast have to compete with other colleges and a million other distractions for fan support and dollars. But North Dakota State stayed focused on winning at that level and they've done a good job at it. What I wonder is when or if they will ever decide to move up to the next level. Looks like every school that has won football championships at that level eventually start planning to move up to the BCS. I guess the money and support it takes to build a championship FCS program is just as expensive as building a BCS program but without the "potential" financial reward of a BCS bowl game. I think Coastal Carolina is "attempting" to do the same thing...focus on winning at the FCS level. I don't know if A&T is just trying to compete at that level or to be a champion at that level. There's a big difference between the two. We will need a lot more fan support, corporate support and the University's support if we want to win an FCS Championships. At this point I believe the fans (me included) are focused on just winning the MEAC (and beating NCCU, SC State and BCU) and the University is focused on maintaining our academic and financial foundation. Until we are all focused at winning a FCS Championship, I think we will continue to be one and done in the playoffs. Fargo is not as back woods as you may think lol. Have been their a number of times . Lovely place. It's just a good college city and they want to keep it that way. With the oil and gas boom in the state over the years the money has always been there if NDSU wanted to make the jump too FBS but I don't think that they care. They just like things as they are. As far as players go from talking to there coaches it's about getting players that fit there system . They prefer to recruit players out of high school that will be their for 4 or 5 years. They are not big on D- 1 castoffs in their program but do take a few. And they do recruit nationally for the right type of player/players . They have a kid from the Greensboro area . I think he is from North East Guilford ? We could learn a thing are to from them. If you ask me.
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Post by Gator on Dec 15, 2014 16:58:03 GMT -5
I'm sure the coaches saw the game between NDSU and Coastal, they know they're on the right track. Let's hope we're bigger and better next year to be in a game like that.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Dec 29, 2014 10:32:43 GMT -5
By the way, is the FCS playoff over? Who won? Does anyone care? We've been arguing for weeks about who's in or out of the playoffs and after Morgan bit the dust, no one on this site gives a crap.
You may not think much of an HBCU Championship or a bowl game between the SWAC or MEAC but I will guarantee you one thing for sure...there will be more trash talking before, during and after that game and everyone in our community will know who played and who won. Now that may not be important to some folks but it's better than no one knowing or caring who played who in North Dakota.
I think for HBCU sports to survive we have got to get more excitement and buzz in our community first. If our fans and community don't care, neither will the sponsors.
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Post by Aggie One on Dec 29, 2014 10:52:22 GMT -5
The FCS championship is Jan. 10 at 1 pm between North Dakota State and Illinois State on ESPN2.
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Post by numberonebrave on Dec 29, 2014 16:44:05 GMT -5
So, I will ask again who would be paying attention if Alcorn and Morgan played from this site..... A few hbcu diehards.... Doubt if anyone paid any attention to the winner of the SWAC Championship or the Bayou Classic. If it is not A&T there will not be mush interest on this site regardless FCS or SWAC/Meac. A friend told me once " he did not want to hear S$&@ about the SWAC" . Like someone else , I watched the Coastal game " heard A&T mentioned when the coastal player took a kickoff back 98 yards for a td. We're there any midyear signings?
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Post by marchingband1969 on Dec 30, 2014 7:16:59 GMT -5
It's time for a reality check...it takes real money to win at the FCS level consistently. A&T's athletic program isn't in great financial shape but we are doing "okay." But to get to the next level...winning at the FCS level consistently, we will have to put much more money into athletics. I don't know if the University is willing to do that and I sure as heck know the A&T fans aren't. Based on our historical level of giving, we are not really serious about competing at the next level. We can debate FCS or non FCS but bottom line, if we are not willing to fund a better program, we will stay where we are. If we figured out a way to significantly increase our athletic revenue then we would not be having this debate. We would have more money to spend on better coaching, recruiting, scholarships and facilities. And all of that would make us even more competitive with the top-tier FCS teams.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 30, 2014 16:21:05 GMT -5
pulling out of the playoffs decreases my enthusiasm to contribute to the aaf. however, its my understanding that our admininistration is opposed to pulling out of the playoffs and if so, i support their position 100%. so i'll wait and see what they decide to do should the meac pull out of the playoffs.
previously i did not support the idea of leaving the meac since it continued to participate in the playoffs. but i just don't have any drive or motivation to only pursue hbcu excellence, i really don't. its very depressing to me just thinking about it.
in the past, i never thought the big south would look appealing to me, but now it does...
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Post by gothamcityaggie on Dec 30, 2014 17:13:34 GMT -5
ok for all its worth I usually just read these post, but what I have read thru out all post in this fan forum is a agreement that athletic department need money for upgrades, scholarships and new facilities and us alumni are not supplying enough support for that.
I for one agree alumni should do more Lord knows I haven't done my fair share but to that end maybe to get support for the athletic department we as aggies meaning school fans and alumni should start to think outside the box. I suggest this GHOE is second to the High Point Furniture show as far bring money into the community. That Economic power is leverage. If we think of GHOE as an event such as the meac Tourney we could sell the event to the highest bidder to raise the needed money for Athletics. I for one would go to GHOE if it was in Charlotte or any other city willing to bid for the event to come to their city, Just a thought
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Post by saabman on Dec 30, 2014 17:15:12 GMT -5
pulling out of the playoffs decreases my enthusiasm to contribute to the aaf. however, its my understanding that our admininistration is opposed to pulling out of the playoffs and if so, i support their position 100%. so i'll wait and see what they decide to do should the meac pull out of the playoffs. previously i did not support the idea of leaving the meac since it continued to participate in the playoffs. but i just don't have any drive or motivation to only pursue hbcu excellence, i really don't. its very depressing to me just thinking about it. in the past, i never thought the big south would look appealing to me, but now it does... OSA : No one really knows what the facts are yet or if any of this is true. I talked what a friend at the NCAA and she stated that as far as they know the MEAC is still apart of the 2015 playoffs and beyond. Now unless there is something more out there as far as the NCAA is concerned the MEAC is still apart of the FCS playoffs.
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Post by saabman on Dec 30, 2014 17:22:29 GMT -5
ok for all its worth I usually just read these post, but what I have read thru out all post in this fan forum is a agreement that athletic department need money for upgrades, scholarships and new facilities and us alumni are not supplying enough support for that. I for one agree alumni should do more Lord knows I haven't done my fair share but to that end maybe to get support for the athletic department we as aggies meaning school fans and alumni should start to think outside the box. I suggest this GHOE is second to the High Point Furniture show as far bring money into the community. That Economic power is leverage. If we think of GHOE as an event such as the meac Tourney we could sell the event to the highest bidder to raise the needed money for Athletics. I for one would go to GHOE if it was in Charlotte or any other city willing to bid for the event to come to their city, Just a thought You can't sell the GHOE..lol That is apart of the A&T brand. You don't sell history . Come on now.
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